When should they be used? What are the pros and cons?
Gary, you truly are an ass for talking to renee like that.
Had you really knew a lot about this industry, you would know that Renee is a true gem in this industry, as well as one of the most respected members of the CAP Community.
Granted, you made a few good points, and I have read many of your posts and threads that you really do help a lot of folks here and at other forums….
I hope the mods here don’t spank me too much for speaking my mind and providing my opinion, and I really don’t want to see this thread turn into a flame war…but I respect Renee too damn much not to say something….whether I am personally flamed for it or not.
Rick
Universal4
I’ve been skint quite enough. Even Admin has spanked me. I think this has gotten a bit out of hand so let me explain’
I responded to this remark;
Since it was posted to a very extensive post that was posted HERE on an affiliate forum, I assumed it was critical or in some way a smart-a remark. ALL I do is post for the benefit of affiliates. Every post I make is for the benefits of this forum.
Then there’s the bird thing. I am from the US but I live in the UK and the term ‘bird’ is a reference made affectionately. When ‘mate’ and ‘cheeky’ are used I assume it is known that the term ‘bird’ is only just that; used affectionately.
Lastly, I have apologised and even put the thread back live for all to see.
But once again I will publicly apologise to Renee for taking her post the wrong way and for calling her a bird. I took the post the wrong way and I wasn’t politically correct in calling a her a bird.
but could you explain please,
in case of targeting a specific language you say:
For searches in the native language on Google.com
Do i understand right that if i have the meta language tag on page (e.g. french) and in Googlewebmastertools country also set to France,it is worse than only the meta tag set?
And how about searches in the native language on google.fr or on the “web” in google.fr in the case both meta language and country are set??
Had you really knew a lot about this industry, you would know that Renee is a true gem in this industry, as well as one of the most respected members of the CAP Community.
Gary, man you must have been living in a cage doing SEO for the last few years…..Renee is one of my favorite affiliate managers……she knows a lot from our industry and she offers outstanding support and feedback to all her affiliates….plz do not call her a bird unless we all have become birds by the flu……..get used to the fact that she is a pretty lady with brains and compassion in all respects.
could you explain please,
in case of targeting a specific language you say:
For searches in the native language on Google.com
Do i understand right that if i have the meta language tag on page (e.g. french) and in Googlewebmastertools country also set to France,it is worse than only the meta tag set?
And how about searches in the native language on google.fr or on the “web” in google.fr in the case both meta language and country are set??
It’s not very clear. I’m not sure if he works much with international clients?
It seems to me like he is saying that if a user, sitting in the united states searching on Google.com for a page in say for example French, using a native French search term that a site with French content will rank better than a site with “geographical targeting”
I will assume he is talking about the Set geographic target feature in Google Webmaster Tools.
There is a great video on this tool here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9r3PayqaZM
And the quick way to set this is
Go to Google Webmasters>Choose your site>Click on Tools>Click on Set Geographic Target ” title=”” class=”bbcode_smiley” />
Here is the problem.
A) The fictional user in most cases does not exist. In the US even the French go to Google.fr, and when you use Google.fr a translated site is the best case.
” title=”” class=”bbcode_smiley” /> You wouldn’t want to Geo_Target your site if you have the .fr, you would really only want to do this if you were using a config like this fr.elgoogrocks.com and you also had dk.elgoogrocks.com, and nl.elgoodrocks.com, or any other geo-specific locations under the elgoogrocks.com and you wanted those domaines to have a chance to rank.
I hope this helps?
Oh and to answer your actual question.
“Do I understand right that if I have the meta language tag on page (e.g. French) and in Googlewebmastertools country also set to France, it is worse than only the meta tag set?”
No, not really. It would be better to have the .fr tld, have the site hosted in France, and all in native French than to just have the geographic target set in webmastertools.
“And how about searches in the native language on google.fr or on the “web” in google.fr in the case both meta language and country are set?? “
Well again it would be better to have the site on .fr, and in French, and be hosted in France. But don’t forget on-page is only 10%, what you need to be focused on if you really want to rank and convert in France for French is being a bigger part of the conversation.
Get active in building links organically related to your topic in France, on French sites. Use your content to target specifically latent French and topic related terms.
There have many great French poker players such as Jac Arama, David Benyamine, Jan Boubli, Patrick Bruel, Bruno Fitoussi, Bertrand Grospellier, Tuan Le, Pascal “Triple P” Perrault, Vanessa Ashley Rousso, as well as Manuel Bevand.
Talk about them, where they play, famous moments, and awesome hands, see if you can get an interview.
At the end of the day living it, being part of the experience, taking part in the bigger conversation, contributing on a regular basis, that is the real secret behind SEO, it’s the meat of it all not the secret sauce that will help you rank well, and convert.
Gary met me in London and was being friendly and asked if I wanted to talk about it in Amsterdam.
He has answered everyone’s questions here. I have actually been impressed with the promptness of his answers.
Renee, I am sure Gary didn’t mean to insult you, he just felt unappreciated.
Now lets get back to the SEO.
It’s a mindboggling thing to many, Gary. And no matter how much one thinks one knows, one always ends up at a point where one realizes one knows nothing. At least that’s the way it is for me.
And I still haven’t quite digested your answer as I am applying it to my site in my mind.
So, if I wanted to do it that way after the fact, (we now have subdirectories) would that still be a good idea or should we leave things be?
Apparently this bird is respected even though she’s calling ME out as pushing wares?
Pathetic but understood.
Gary
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