SandBox question???

Spend enough time on the SEO forums and you will have all the proof you need. There are a gazillion examples of sites experiencing very similar effects (ie: the sandbox). The exact cause of the sandbox and the algorithms behind it is of course a closely held secret by Google, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

The sandbox is proven as much as it possibly could be without Google issuing an official statement of it’s existence:
http://www.seomoz.org/blogdetail.php?ID=328

The jury is still out on Google Bowling:
http://forums.seochat.com/showthread.php?t=39323&page=1&pp=15

Sandbox and bowling, neither is proven to even exist. I am amazed at the amount of time spent on these issues.

I’d like to express my personal point of view on the sandbox issue in particular and all the other SE (Google) filters in general.

I am no SE nor SEO expert, I’d like to hear what others feel about this issue as well.

No one can tell exactly what filters are applied for real and for how long. no one knows the exact ranking algorithms but Google Labs and no one can tell the exact weight of each ranking factor etc..

We can discuss this for ever and find ourselves exactly were we started.

The problem nowadays is that before one take a step in online marketing.. He places his own obstacles before his own foot.

I believe that no one should fear starting a new web site because of any SE filters (excluding duplicate content).

Why?
Because if you build a few sites with some content, trade links with other sites, cross linking your web sites (like a small network) and actually serve content.

You will get links back, you will build more sites, you will then get more links and so on..

in the meantime…. your sites will get crawled.. sandbox time will pass
and when looking back you will realize how much progress you have achieved just by not being worried about the negative side and focusing on hard work of building your own business.

You might be amazed to see how many people looking for other terms than just “online casino” have reached your site while searching for gambling.

after all.. there are so many filters and ranking factors we are not aware of out there.. so why look for them instead of what’s really important?

Don’t chase PR, Don’t chase your fears. build more web sites and you will get there faster than anyone else.

:angel: M.D., that was truly BRILLIANT… How refreshing to read those words.

I have dabled in this for a few years, off and on More off…….self taught and still very much learning, it can be easy or it can be complicated.

My problem is that I want so much in the begining and when I don’t recieve I start thinking that the affiliates are riping me or I need to take classes or I’m doing something wrong and finally decide it’s not worth the time I put into it…:flush: .

I am now working on my 4th site, using my 3rd’s URL temporarily…

I think 4 is gonna be my lucky number.

Thanks for the reply.

you have to have your page indexed then it gets sandboxed…

no index, no sandbox.

i would also recommend you to target all of your keywords because if you just put up a main page just to get indexed and you change your keywords later..lets say after you get outta sandboxed, you might be sandboxed again.

I agree,

IMHO, no one should be afraid from the sandbox or any other ranking limiting factors from that class.

One year is only an estimation, Why not use this ‘year’ to establish link popularity and PR?

Is google the only SE you are relying upon?

Forget the sandbox or any other “scary” declarations about Google, put your sites up and things will happen.

Good Luck