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February 2, 2007 at 4:18 am #725426biggygMember
Casino sends money to US NETELLER account ,money is stuck there .The act of then taking it from the usa Neteller account and sending it to a casino is illegal As it would count as transfer from US citizen.
Had the casino cancelled it before you click ‘accept’ then that is allowed.Just a legal technicality that will probably come up.Now if the casino bounced a payment i am sure they would find a way to take the money back from you and not consider it breaking the law
February 2, 2007 at 4:38 am #725427AnonymousInactiveI don’t understand their train of thought when it comes down to holding
the funds or removing peer-to-peer transfers. Can they honestly believe
that this won’t tarnish their record with account holders in other countries?If they can hold U.S. funds for an undetermined amount of time without any
explanation.. then they can hold anybody’s funds from anywhere in the
world for any reason. I would think that non-U.S. account holders are
going to be nervous about making future transactions with their company.They should have announced a deadline, gave everyone a time frame
to request a withdrawal, and all withdrawals attempts made within that
time frame would be immediately completed. It just boggles my mind.February 2, 2007 at 5:26 am #725431biggygMemberWell we dont see all the legal work in front of them , I think DOJ has more to do with this than neteller right now and neteller is probably waiting for permission to pay american people trying to find a backdoor way to do it.
I am not american but I have lost my trust in them as I am sure most of the other members have,I certainly wont be putting large amounts of money through them.
As for Peer to peer they were probably counting on americans using friends or family in other countries to help them and they or DOJ eliminated that potential.
February 2, 2007 at 5:39 am #725432AnonymousInactiveAccording to a news article appearing in USA TODAY:
“Still, the actions against BetOnSports and Neteller have left the online accounts of their U.S. customers frozen until legal issues are resolved. The truth is that the money is in limbo and the companies are not required to refund any money until a successful prosecution or settlement takes place,” says Michael Tew, principal of gaming consultant CapitalHQ. “This could take years.”
February 2, 2007 at 5:48 am #725433biggygMemberThis was what I was trying to prepare them for .Now the cat is out of the bag and Neteller is praying their lawyers can pull a rabbit out of their ass .Wouldnt surprise me one bit if this money is all seized and never returned as they will say it was proceeds of a crime.To my american friends my heart goes out to you but that may be closer to the truth than you want to accept.
February 2, 2007 at 10:52 am #725441AnonymousInactivecasinobonusguy wrote:Casino sends money to US NETELLER account ,money is stuck there .The act of then taking it from the usa Neteller account and sending it to a casino is illegal As it would count as transfer from US citizen.So, they are well aware of that flow, and they continue to put payments into US accounts? That they know they will keep as long as they wish?
I thought they were just in a bad spot, but that does sound crooked. If they can stop account outflows to US citizens, then the only smart thing to do is stop any inflows as well.
I thought the actions were against Stephen Lawrence and John Lefebvre, not Neteller. Who has told Neteller that they can accept money on behalf of US people, but not pay it out?
Hmmm… from the article above…
Quote:FBI Agent Neil Donovan says funds from Neteller are being held in court as potential evidence. Some customers may get their money back, but he did not provide a timetable.So, I guess the evidence keeps flowing in.
February 2, 2007 at 2:28 pm #725466AnonymousGuestAs for Peer to peer they were probably counting on americans using friends or family in other countries to help them and they or DOJ eliminated that potential.
Hi all,
well the one flaw i see in that theory is that to many people, gambling is a very private hobby. I would bet a very large number of NETeller members are people who don’t want anybody to know they had anything to do with gambling, online or off.
I guess its a moot point now in any case.
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