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Here is one of my concerns when it comes to the whole neteller problem. Eventually, Netellers attorney’s or DOJ will states this $$ needs to stay in Escrow (Trust) as evidence until the trial is over. They have the Legal right to do this; If any of the Atty’s makes it evidence and the Judge agrees. It’s evidence. Won’t see this $$ until the Trial is over and all resulting Appeals are exhausted. Could take years.
A) More concerning. Remember, 1-2 days after the passage of HR4111 when you signed on to your Neteller account and they made you Affirm that you agree with their TOS? Basically, it was the same TOS as always except for this one New Line in Privacy:
” We disclose personal information to government agencies, court or law enforcement personnel in response to applicable legislation or regulations, or to any subpoena, warrant, court order, levy, attachment, order of a court-appointed receiver or other comparable legal process, including subpoenas from private parties in a civil action. We reserve the right to cooperate with legal authorities having actual or potential jurisdiction over us. “
Now lets say the good courts of the State of NY/NJ say they will drop all charges on your Two Founders if you release all records pertaining to Transactions in the US. This one line above gives neteller the right to disclose all our information to the DOJ/IRS/ any Gov’t agency the courts assign to collect the data and not infridge on the Privacy Rights Act. Why? We waived our rights by accepting the new TOS. Now that is truely concerning!
having actual or potential jurisdiction over us.
there’s the catch 22 which I’m certain won’t be observed. The US has no actual or potential jurisdiction over NETeller however that won’t keep them from cowering to pressure which has no real bite to it.
I have about $500.00 to $700.00 in my paypal account which I could transfer to your paypal account if you want to do a Neteller transfer to my Neteller ( I am in South Africa so my Neteller account isn’t affected ) Please pm me . I can only help the first one to pm me because thats all I have left
I am honest person and I respect the laws. I think I’ll sign to Neteller.
I can avaible to receive the money by neteller but only to do exchange with the links or other things.
( I sell link pr 3 on onlinexcasinos.com )I am not avaible to receive money with Neteller or I’ll pay with paypal.
This is against the laws.for more information about links : http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?t=17976
Webin, there is no legal information about peer to peer transfers in that post you quoted, just advertising for your links. Thats spam. This thread is not about your links.
There is nothing illegal about peer to peer transfers between neteller or paypal users.
I just got a package of money from my brother in Uk .It has $5000 GBP which is about 10,000 Canadian dollars ,Cost us 10 bux to send it and this is a normal thing for us to do. I recommend you americans hook up with friends /family outside USA and get them to send you ‘registered mail documents ‘
.1.2 million cash has been exchanged between me and my brother this way in different currencies and we have never lost a single package although we did have a rogue american buyer who claimed to be short once.Fedex will open the packages so we use the mail systems except for large orders which we disclose the contents and paid insurance through airlines.Yes there are risks to do this but I think when you weigh the alternatives you will see this as a viable alternative.We use to fly all over to physically buy the notes ,then we started’taking chances’ with the mail and couriers and we probably have saved $30,000 in travel expenses in past 16 months.
We have list of global couriers and mail sevice if anyone needs any recommendations .
I ask sorry to Dominiquie you can cancell the my links.
if you don’t receive the money with Neteller from Gambling because so the U.S.A. law say.
I think that you won’t receive the money from Gambling in nothing other way for the U.S.A law.I think : If you help me one u.s.a person to take the money form Gambling you can responsable to no respect the U.S.A laws.
why Neteller have some problems with usa laws ? It “help” to american people to have the money by Gambling ? or other ?
What do you think ?
I don’t see a good period for gambling
Dominique wrote:There is nothing illegal about peer to peer transfers between neteller or paypal users.Are those transfers being done as a means to get around road blocks in part created by the usa government? I think that you will find that diverting funds between numerous entities to get by those road blocks might be considered money laundering by the DOJ. I wouldnt advertise that you are involved in that process, unless youre looking to become public enemy #1. :banger:
DealerDan wrote:US citizens are no longer able to withdraw via their Neteller card.Also peer to peer transfers are meant to take up to 5 business days now apparently, as opposed to before when it was instant. Although as of right now they are still instant.
Just used mine at the atm no problem.
Are those transfers being done as a means to get around road blocks in part created by the usa government?
If the recipient was going to use the funds for gambling – then I would agree but as we know you cannot gamble out of paypal and I am merely offering to help someone get their money out of Neteller which is taking too long to process via eft’s. Nothing wrong with that.
Besides I’m in South Africa and not intending coming to the USA :lookaroun
belgamo wrote:Just used mine at the atm no problem.
Wait, the ATM card still works? Can you still load it up with cash if you are from the US?I was told that you cant even put the money on the card.
No, the debit card is no longer a withdrawal option according to NT customer service. I tried it and it declined me today.
I am not waiting for Neteller – they say there is a backlog they are trying to clear, but if noone gets paid – how are they clearing that backlog?
If they still intend to pay us, most likely they are trying to pay the online casinos first…
