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May 1, 2008 at 12:01 pm #608809AnonymousInactive
Been trying to work out how to best pose this question but thought I’d just write it the easiest way in the end.
Basically I am not saying spam is good but I always wonder why affiliates get so mad at programs that allow spammers.
They are a complete nucience and fill my inbox completely but I tend to delete and move on and never get round to forwarding to aff progs or anything
Basically is it because Affiliates are just nice caring people and want to stop spam on the net or are there other reasons to stop them?
Hope that comes across how I mean it to
May 1, 2008 at 12:29 pm #767043AnonymousInactivei would be more inclined to say that it is caused by trying to keep this industry under control, at least with repsonsive programs.
although 99% of the time i can’t be bothered to bitch, i do think that spammers are:
1. competition
2. that they inflict damage to my business in terms of reputation (it doesn’t take a lot to for an “online joe” to link casino to spam)
3. that “my programs” should not encourage such marketing techniques (its related to being “fair”, as in getting rewarded for your efforts instead of ability to abuse)
4. it takes such a long time to build proper traffic (forget the ridiculous amount of hours webmasters put into this w/o getting 1 cent of return until 6 months through, or so), that i feel a little robbed by spammers.as a good rule of thumb, its a belief and attempt to keep things relatively clean in this industry, for the fact being that if we/you/CAP members/affiliates/whatever don’t enforce this, i don’t see anyone else doing it.
as far as my knowledge goes, businesses/corporations/organizations are terrible at self-control in regards to balance of ethics and profit. this is not industry particular, it’s the nature of business itself.
unless there are third parties (like affiliates) enforcing their “beliefs” (don’t pay spammers) on affiliate programs through particular methods of control (not advertising properties that break the ‘rules’), most programs would still accept spam…
May 1, 2008 at 12:37 pm #767044AnonymousInactivePerfect answer – Thanks!
May 1, 2008 at 1:42 pm #767047AnonymousInactiveFor me, it pisses me off in this industry more than any other because their actions tarnish everyone. The concept of “affiliates are spammers” is not one I want to be associated with, but the unfortunate truth is that it is a job with low barriers of entry so it’s bound to attract that type of selfish idiot. Aside from which, spam is disrespectful and indicative of the “me-me-me-f*ck-everyone-else” society we live in. It just reminds me how selfish, useless and pathetic the human race really can be. Hate it with a passion. In case you hadn’t guessed
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May 1, 2008 at 2:19 pm #767050AnonymousInactiveIt is an annoying nuisance for almost all the recipients.
It gives all of us a bad name.
Spamming is illegal in most if not all jurisdictions and gives governments good cause to intervene online.
If we don’t care to keep the web clean, we will see massive government intervention and regulation. And we will see the general public applauding it. And there goes our freedom.
Some people just can’t see beyond their own nose.
May 1, 2008 at 8:24 pm #767085vladcizsolMemberI agree with all the posts above.
SPAM aggravates the recipents and leaves a bad taste in their mouths. In order for players to feel confident enough to deposit real money that have to feel the people they are working with are reliable.
When a snow storm of email SPAM comes into promoting that particular casino or poker room it lowers the credibility and marketability of the operator. That makes our job harder and less productive.
When operators turn a blind eye to SPAM they are basically viewed by the public in the same class as Big Penis Pills, Herbal Viagra, Porn sites etc…
May 1, 2008 at 9:35 pm #767089AnonymousInactiveMay 1, 2008 at 10:29 pm #767090AnonymousInactive@Professor 161502 wrote:
When a snow storm of email SPAM comes into promoting that particular casino or poker room it lowers the credibility and marketability of the operator. That makes our job harder and less productive.
When operators turn a blind eye to SPAM they are basically viewed by the public in the same class as Big Penis Pills, Herbal Viagra, Porn sites etc...
I agree with all the posts above also
Lou you hit the nail on the head :hattip:Brad
May 2, 2008 at 1:16 pm #767124vladcizsolMemberQuote:Those are what spammers take. They clearly workMay 2, 2008 at 2:32 pm #767135AnonymousInactiveThe spammer’s life cycle.
May 9, 2008 at 5:02 am #767489no-deposit.netMemberSpam causes most networked companies thousands of dollars a year. I work in IT and know from experience that spam will clog a network to a stand still or maybe it will just crash a mail server. This causes companies to lose money, spend countless hours trying to fix and block the spammers. There are so many reasons spammers are bad. What about morally wrong? Some may consider this a violation of privacy as well.
Now back in the day I did a little spamming myself so I know the profits in spamming which is why it will never go away.
May 12, 2008 at 4:36 pm #767678StephanieCSMemberOut of interest how are we defining spam?
there are many forms of e-mail marketing and I can see how things like solus e-mails etc can be perceived by users as spam even though they have been paid for and should be opt in etc… very often you book an e-mail campaign and the list broker just blatantly spams his database with no reference to a “partner promotion”
I think in general e-mail marketing can be very effective at pulling traffic to a site or offer but “they” are killing the goose that laid the golden egg by mailing the sh*t out of them….and subject header strategy doesn’t help..
…going off topic but as I say I am curious about how we define spam?
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