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elcasino.com and former know as eurosuperpoker.com are still owning me over €6000
i never heard of them anymore, my emails are not getting answered
Elcasino.com is a big fraud box, i know alone 10 affiliates who didnt get paid
@GFPC 233149 wrote:
With Europartners you have to keep on them. Never stop. Email them everyday or at least 3 4 times a week. Post in forums they owe you money – eventually they will pay. I did this one time and they paid me after 1 year – that is right i had to email them 100s of times and i would never give up – I actually agreed to a pay off of 50% just to close the case.. LOL
To bad Marc is not there – he got things done – the rest are a shambles – mind you Robin is a decent person working with a pack of wolves. I would email them non stop if i were you. Never let up.
I yanked Affiliates United after the last fiasco and hearing reports of other issues – they were really improving too. BUt it seems they are back to what they used to be.
dont want to be the asshole here, but look from which country they are from, do you really expekt getting paid from them ?? or at least getting paid smoothly from them .. its always hard to deal from all people who lives there … they always find a reason to not pay you… sad but true. again dont want to be racism, but thats what i saw the last 3-4 years in the business, if a company from there offers a deal.. only with a contract or prepaid otheriwse its not worth to run after them to get paid what you earned.
@CommandsofPoker 235100 wrote:
dont want to be the asshole here, but look from which country they are from, do you really expekt getting paid from them ?? or at least getting paid smoothly from them .. its always hard to deal from all people who lives there … they always find a reason to not pay you… sad but true. again dont want to be racism, but thats what i saw the last 3-4 years in the business, if a company from there offers a deal.. only with a contract or prepaid otheriwse its not worth to run after them to get paid what you earned.
Okay so you claim that all Israel based programs are like that?
Either you are quite correct, and you are in fact being an asshole, or you are misinformed or both.
I don’t think it has to do with location really. I think the reason you may have come to that assertion is because (not sure if my numbers are correct) 65-70% of most afffiliates programs are based there in that location. At least all the ones i deal with.
I have been burned from Affiliate Programs from several countries and never think of it in terms of location – its more to do with the company policy and business moral.
Take for example Bewinners – they are suppose to be a leader in this industry and well respected brand and indeed they were for so many years. I absolutely loved BWIN back in the day when they were an ethical company.
But over the last year or year and a half they have shown what assholes they have become. Not only have they hurt affiliates in severe fashions – but they have went so far as to bad mouth other industry leaders in some of their press releases while tutting their own horn.
If anything I would rate them top of the list – because they were sneaky – they built a reputation for years and years and waited till they had a stranglehold on markets and at the end of it all – shoved the finger in the air at many who supported them.
Even their sponsorship deals often go sour! They are ruthless! They do not care who they hurt – as long as they benefit along the way for themselves!
I really feel Party is going to feel the pain dealing with them – mind you Party is the sidekick anyways….
Its like have you watched the Flintstones ever?
Bwin if Fred and Barney is Party – Barney sticks his head up Fred’s arse all the time…
The funny part is they are supported from from IGB/LAC who allow them sponsorships and to be able to appear as the good guys!! LOL
I recall when every forum and affiliate were boycotting them and when the event organizers said they support a whole community action!!
They of course for whatever reason also told affiliates to shove it and back stabbed us.
Its the way the industry runs! Do not trust your grandmother!
A close 2nd – Europartners! They are leeches in this industry! They suck the life blood right out of affiliates and really show you what slavery is in this industry.
Problem is everyone still has a bit of Stockholm Syndrome and cant see the light at the end of the tunnel…
haha there is more of course – in this case one is from that location and another from Austria..
Whatever – in any business there will be scum!
@GFPC 235201 wrote:
Take for example Bewinners – they are suppose to be a leader in this industry and well respected brand and indeed they were for so many years. I absolutely loved BWIN back in the day when they were an ethical company.
But over the last year or year and a half they have shown what assholes they have become. Not only have they hurt affiliates in severe fashions – but they have went so far as to bad mouth other industry leaders in some of their press releases while tutting their own horn.
What some of these big places (and we now have Ladbrokes in the same boat as bewinners) don’t get, is that this is the internet. Things go viral, and the internet never forgets.
Wait until they try to enter the US market – in the US folk are quick to sue. Affiliates will be able to sue very easily for up to $ 5000 in small claims courts. If they pull crap like that here, they will have a ton of suits on their hands – and the mainstream media lives on stuff like that.
I am working in forex industry and one of the worst program I had a chance to work with is marketiva. The support is useless, there is no affiliate manager and it is truly a waste of time. Any program that is unable to change the payment method upon request and charges $14 for every transaction is a spam!
@justred 235197 wrote:
Okay so you claim that all Israel based programs are like that?
Either you are quite correct, and you are in fact being an asshole, or you are misinformed or both.
i think im right , all of them are like this
and there are many affiliates saying the same
regarding im an asshole or misinformed or both: from where are you exactly from ?
@Warren 232921 wrote:
My all-time favorite rogue, Jackpots Heaven:
Ah yes, the lovely Andrew Fenech. Looks like they have died a death though as the site no longer resolves
Who can though forget this beauty:
first visit in a few years to the forum. Nice to see its become a hangout for raciest idi$ots. Cap staff don’t you feel commando up there deserves to be banned.
@weblight 236922 wrote:
first visit in a few years to the forum. Nice to see its become a hangout for raciest idi$ots. Cap staff don’t you feel commando up there deserves to be banned.
Hi Weblight… Thank you for your response and welcome back to the forums. After looking back at comments that have been shared by CommandsofPoker I understand your insight and feedback.
As a reminder to all members of the CAP Community… Although we welcome people to speak freely and share their insights, opinions and even participate in discussions that may be controversial, we do not tolerate any personal attacks. Which, CommandsofPoker, it appears that your views are leaning to that frame of mind…
Plus… it appears that the entire theme of the thread has gone off course. The purpose of this conversation was for community members to share their thoughts/opinions on the worst programs in the industry… absolutely not having to do with any regions of programs.
If anyone has any questions about this, please view the Forum Guidelines here: CAP Forum Rules/Guidelines
@grem 233011 wrote:
casinocoins still seems to be accepting players but not paying affiliates.
Before they stopped taking USA players they were my Favorite! Of course, the fact they paid for a full weeks vacation for 10 affiliates Lou Fabiano, Islandman Brian, me and 7 others in 2001 (I think it was) Connie and Flora treated us like kings!! I still frequently watch the helicopter ride tape they treated us to. 150 +- miles up the Grand Canyon landed at the bottom and catered our lunch!!! I’ll never forget it!
Always paid us on time way back then. Lou didn’t get the chopper ride he was a little Uhhhh
large. Miss you buddy.Denny
@weblight 236922 wrote:
first visit in a few years to the forum. Nice to see its become a hangout for raciest idi$ots. Cap staff don’t you feel commando up there deserves to be banned.
you are all jokes , seriously
everyone and im sure 95% of all humans in the world say one time in the world, look at this german, look at the italians, look the US guys always making war , look at the russians … … man u dont have an idea what racist really are.
You stop by and saying stupid things with no really information … if I say soemthing about Israelic people … what does it has to do with racist ?
Not to mention most jewish jokes are coming from the USAYou really have a narrow mind , catched some hostory lesson at school where they talked about germany and jews … and know everyone who say soemthing about israel is a racist.
Shame on you all
Im saying and maybe noone hast the guts to say it, i try to not work with any site who is based in Israel … this included WIlliam Hill too … and many ppl know why cpays is bad as it is .
And why ? cauz I want to get paid in time and without any hassles from a Room.Actually i need to say im working with one room based in Israel.. it works fine atm but in the longrun im not so sure
@CommandsofPoker 237304 wrote:
you are all jokes , seriously
everyone and im sure 95% of all humans in the world say one time in the world, look at this german, look at the italians, look the US guys always making war , look at the russians … … man u dont have an idea what racist really are.
You stop by and saying stupid things with no really information … if I say soemthing about Israelic people … what does it has to do with racist ?
Not to mention most jewish jokes are coming from the USAYou really have a narrow mind , catched some hostory lesson at school where they talked about germany and jews … and know everyone who say soemthing about israel is a racist.
Shame on you all
Im saying and maybe noone hast the guts to say it, i try to not work with any site who is based in Israel … this included WIlliam Hill too … and many ppl know why cpays is bad as it is .
And why ? cauz I want to get paid in time and without any hassles from a Room.Actually i need to say im working with one room based in Israel.. it works fine atm but in the longrun im not so sure
CommandsofPoker, to reiterate what I shared last week… This is a professional forum with the intent to focus on affiliate marketing in the online gambling space. Although debates are welcome, we do not tolerate personal attacks of any kind. Your comments are airing on that side. As a reminder, you can review the forum rules here: CAP Forum Rules
The original content of this thread has been taken far off the intended topic. For future posts, let’s remain on course and follow the guidelines of the forums hereon out.
