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April 12, 2005 at 1:15 am #588356AnonymousInactive
I went to check on my site today and a certificate came up from Verisign in reference to PokerChamps. My initial response FREAKING PISSED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is FREAKING STEALING!!!!!!!!!!!
I wrote a letter to them addressing this and am waiting for their response. I will not tollorate any site I promote srealing my customer base by proxy of certificates by referense or any other means. If any of you are promoting them check your site. If they’re doing it to me; they’re doing it to you.
April 12, 2005 at 1:18 am #664014AnonymousInactiveHuh?
What exactly is going on?
Can you please give a link or something?
I went to your site but nothing popped, clicked on the ad and went there, nothing happened…
April 12, 2005 at 1:31 am #664015AnonymousInactiveI was visiting my site when this certificate came up. I checked the certificate and it is triggered by a reference to PokerChamps. It’s the first time it has happened I don’t know if this thing is set on random or what; but it did come up. I’ve contacted my associates and if I don’t get a response in 24hrs from them on this suject they’re being removed from all our sites.
The certificate was issued to PokerChamps.
April 12, 2005 at 3:49 am #664018AnonymousInactiveOkay, I’ve calmed down some.
This certificate showed up on my site and stated to view this page properly you need to install this program. It also declared that something was wrong with certificate. Like I stated earlier I checked the certificate and it was issued by Verisign to PokerChamps.
Nobody needs to download anything to view my site. Verisign is adware that installs programs for popups. This tactic rerouts my visitors to another affiliate stealing mine and every other webmasters customers. The fact that it came up once tells me that they are using some sort of random process to bring this theftware to unsuspecting affiliates sites without being detected.
I know what I saw and read. I don’t know what I can do about it, but I guarantee it’s going to be more than just bitching about it.
April 12, 2005 at 7:51 am #664021AnonymousInactiveWhat are you going on about.
Verisign offer secure SSL certificates. The message you are referring to pop-ups if the site’s certificate has expired. This is obviously what happened with PokerChamps. They’re not trying to divert your commissions, or steal your players…they’re just not on the ball when it comes to renewing their SSL cert.
April 12, 2005 at 11:51 am #664023AnonymousInactiveThat’s absolutely correct.
Verisign is NOT spyware. Quite the opposite. They allow the site to operate securely through use of the Secure Socket Layer (SSL).
April 12, 2005 at 11:53 am #664024AnonymousInactiveWhat does their certificate have to do with my site stating to view this site properly you must download this program. Don’t give me CRAP about SSL’s. This certificate specifically stated what I said. Nobiody needs to download anything to view my site content whatsoever. Verisign is exactly what I said it is Thiefware!
I still haven’t recieved any response from PokerChamps which is the typical response for those who use these tactics.
April 12, 2005 at 3:58 pm #664044AnonymousInactiveOK, so you have two people giving you correct information about what Verisign is and does, and you’re complaining about them giving you crap?
Don’t bother asking for help if you’re unwilling to listen to reasoned and accurate answers. Learn a little more about how the Internet works before you think you know it all.
April 12, 2005 at 4:06 pm #664045AnonymousInactivedon’t ask for help and then belittle the people that is just rude. I did get 2 pop ups when I went to your site one for http://www.rednova.com/images/iod/video/?src=int and the other is a fake error banner promoting something i think was called error gaurd.
I will run adaware to make sure I don’t have any new spywhere but I think I am clean.
Brian
April 12, 2005 at 4:27 pm #664047AnonymousInactiveAll the information given here is of course correct – verisign is a reputable company issuing SSL certificates.
Did you copy and paste the banner from Poker Champs?
It has happened to me before also with a different program that had a SSL certificate installed, for some reason the banner would pop the certificate notice the first time you visited the page it was on. Very strange and I have no idea how this happens, but in any case it is not the first time I hear of this. It only happens with copied and pasted banners…
The ad from RedNova above does come with a once daily pop about some alert – it is an ad for a spyware remover and launches once per day per person.
Poker Champs is not a problem per se – they need to do something about their deal with Verisign is all. And they should provide hosted banners if they have a problem with the SSL popping on affiliate sites.
April 12, 2005 at 4:31 pm #664048AnonymousInactiveI saw a pop-up to Entrepreneur.com on your reviews page, but had no problem when I clicked on your PokerChamps.com banner.
April 12, 2005 at 8:03 pm #664055AnonymousInactiveMy problem is a certificate instructing me or anybody coming to my site informing them that they need to download a program to view the content of my site when I know no such download is necessary. As for verisign and PokerChamps no certifiicate for either should come up on my site for any reason.
The banner on my site was copied and pasted from PokerChamps marketing page. I still haven’t heard one ligitimate reason for this certificate showing up on my site.
April 12, 2005 at 10:11 pm #664062AnonymousInactiveOK, since you persist, I’ll take 10 minutes out of my busy day to diagnose your problem…
On this page:
http://vetspoker.tripod.com/vetspokersite/id2.htmlYou have an image loading, from here:
https://secure.pokerchamps.com/anims/wpt_pclongbanner_468x60_red.gifNote the ‘s’ in https. That means you’re loading this image over a secure connection from the pokerchamps site via SSL. That means that your visitor’s browser must negotiate a secure encrypted connection with the Poker Champs site so this picture can be downloaded. Part of that process is that your visitors browser will request the secure certificate from that site, in order to verify that secure.pokerchamps.com is really the server that it claims to be.
Now, I don’t know why your browser complained about the PokerChamps certificate, because it appears just fine at the moment. The certificate from their site has valid dates from July 14, 2004 to July 15, 2006, so it was not recently renewed. Perhaps they were doing maintenance on their server when you requested the page, or perhaps your browser just got confused.
Regardless, none of this would ever have happened if you had just changed the ‘https’ in your image src tag to ‘http’. Your visitors don’t need a secure connection to download a banner from PokerChamps.
So, go edit your page to correct your mistake, and quit with the attitude already.
April 12, 2005 at 10:37 pm #664063AnonymousInactiveThank you Kevin.
This answers my questions about the matter also, since this has happened to me before with another aff site.
April 13, 2005 at 12:19 am #664067AnonymousInactiveJust one more question and I’ll leave it alone. I merely open my page without clicking anything, would this have still happened as you say.
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