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October 1, 2007 at 1:38 pm #605241AnonymousInactive
Hi,
How do you intend to pay your U.S. affiliates now that EcoCard is no longer an option?
Payspark/CSC24seven is not an acceptable solution. The hoops that one has to jump through to set up an account are ridiculous.
Have you applied for Affiliate Speedpay yet? Yes or no. If not, why not?
Why don’t you offer QuickTender? It is basically the same thing as EcoCard, yet you don’t offer it as a payment option for your U.S. affiliates.
Why can’t you send checks? A lot of other programs can.
Are wire transfers (to U.S. bank accounts) possible?
Thanks in advance.
P.S. Please do not suggest that I “open an offshore bank account.” There are several viable options available right now, including QuickTender and Affiliate Speedpay. I would like to be paid via one of those methods.
October 1, 2007 at 2:35 pm #750370AnonymousInactiveHi Engineer
I’m afraid that CSC24Seven is the only option for us to be able to pay US affiliates. None of the clients of WagerShare accept US players and as such won’t be associated with payment mechanisms tailored towards that market.
CSC24Seven is an excellent solution and it’s a company that we’ve dealt with for many years.
Best regards,
Tim
October 1, 2007 at 4:07 pm #750378AnonymousInactive@WagerShare 140646 wrote:
Hi Engineer
I’m afraid that CSC24Seven is the only option for us to be able to pay US affiliates. None of the clients of WagerShare accept US players and as such won’t be associated with payment mechanisms tailored towards that market.
CSC24Seven is an excellent solution and it’s a company that we’ve dealt with for many years.
Best regards,
Tim
Tim,
That is not an acceptable answer.
Virgin Games doesn’t accept U.S. players. Yet they pay me by wire every month like clockwork.
Casino Blasters sent me a check last month. They don’t accept U.S. players.
PartnerLogic sends checks. Prime Partners sends checks and wires. Neither of these programs accept U.S. players.
Right there you have 4 programs that don’t accept U.S. players, but that pay their U.S. affiliates without making them get a Lebanon-based offshore bank account (CSC24seven).
What makes you think that you can’t send checks or wires or use other currently viable options such as QuickTender and Affiliate Speedpay to pay your affiliates?
Payments to players and payments to affiliates must be made through separate mechanisms now. You can’t expect to continue paying affiliates (especially U.S. affiliates) via the same methods that you pay your casino players.
As a U.S. affiliate, why shouldn’t I be able to receive commissions from non U.S. players? Is your new business strategy to work only with non U.S. affiliates as well? Do you think that, as a U.S. affiliate, I’m not capable of sending non U.S. players? You’d be wrong if you thought that. Last month, over 85% of the new depositing players at another large Microgaming program were non-U.S. players. So I’m thinking that I could promote your casinos with similar results; i.e. your “no US” rule doesn’t mean that I won’t make decent money there.
I’m sorry, but your answer, and your refusal to consider using QT and ASP just boggles my mind.
I do hope you’ll reconsider your position and offer QuickTender and Affiliate Speedpay very soon.
October 1, 2007 at 4:28 pm #750381AnonymousInactiveHi Engineer
I understand what you are saying but I’m afraid that our hands are tied as to the payment mechanisms we can use. I will pass your concerns on to the relevant parties and will argue your case, but I cannot guarantee that I will be able to get any of the mechanisms you suggest added as payment options.
We have many satisfied affiliates using CSC24Seven as a payment option which is what the powers that be will argue against my case for new payment mechanisms.
If you can show me some purely non-US affiliate programs that accept QuickTender then it would be a great help.
Best regards,
Tim
October 1, 2007 at 5:10 pm #750386AnonymousInactiveTim, I understand that it is not your decision, but I wanted to add another argument AGAINST the use of CSC24Seven.
CSC24Seven is at best a solution for SMALL affiliates. Why?
Because the only way to withdrawal funds is at the ATM. All ATM’s have limits. At many you can only get $400 at one time.
What if an affiliate makes 10K a month? The ATM lets you withdrawal $400 max. So this affiliate has to make 25 trips to the ATM. That’s pretty much every day. But what does an affiliate do, that makes 50K ? But then maybe you just don’t have such affiliates …?October 1, 2007 at 5:36 pm #750392AnonymousInactiveWell there are means to transfer funds across different e-wallets but you’re right it’s anything but ideal. Other than that if I was a US aff I would be very reluctant to work with a processor based in Lebanon. Under the Patriot Act money laundering is a very serious issue and who knows if this company is not partly owned by Hesbollah. All I’m saying is this certainly spells trouble for US affs in the current witch hunt climate that they’re exposed to.
October 1, 2007 at 6:14 pm #750399AnonymousInactiveSo what you’re saying is, EVEN IF all your top affiliates (counting only those that send all your biggest worldwide based players) might be US Based affiliates, you don’t care what methods they need or want to use to get paid.
Like others, I realize this may not be your decision but the decision of others, clearly I think you WILL see the amount of traffic your properties recieve will continue to dwindle unless you do something to convince the “powers that be” the error of their ways.
I personally had been reducing the exposure of your properties somewhat and giving more exposure to those MGS that allowed for US Play, but with the notion of not being willing to work towards more comfortable payment solutions for the affiliates, it appears (to us) that we are not a valuable asset and more of a hinderance.
Rick
Universal4October 1, 2007 at 11:23 pm #750424AnonymousInactiveWell another program I have to dump.
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