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[Anonymous]

I have no skills to create this, but for the sake of potentially having a good idea that someone else can put in motion I’m posting it. Perhaps far-fetched but you never know until you say it.

PART I:
This tool will overlay the google.com search results and place a checkbox next to each listing. If the person using the tool clicks the checkbox two links appear under the search result.

Link #1) Report to Google (for spamming / cloaking / violations of T&Cs) … This triggers a list of checkboxes with the google violation options they allow you to select from when processing the spam report:

a) misleading re-direct
b) description doesnt match content,
c) etc..

Also provides a text input area for comments you want to send with the report.

The software then collects the other information google requires to send the spam report. (a) query you used to generate the results, (b) the URL of the search results (c) offending website, and then automatically sends the spam report.

Link #2) Affiliate T&C Violation If you select this link the program will send out our own spider to find out what programs are being promoted on the offending site as well as the affiliate IDs of the offender. It should also be able to easily deal with straight re-directs.

Program then automatically generates emails to the affiliate programs reporting the offender so they can ban the account.

PART II:
We employ is a “centralized server” that collects our collective reporting in one place. It would update as we submit complaints. For instance if I report a bad site not only do the affiliate programs and google get an email about it, but our “centralized server” also gets the information providing a few extra features:

(a) If a site has already been reported (by someone else) the checkbox next to the search result would be greyed out to prevent us from annoying google and the affiliate programs with duplicate reports, saving everyone lots of time.

(b) Allow us to maintain a whois database of offenders and repeat offenders, generated a “most wanted” list of offenders, etc.. if the same offenders keep appearing we’d have the data to ask a program — hey. why no action here?

(c) potentially collect enough informatino to prove that theft is occuring and taking repeat offenders to court of copyright infringement, etc, perhaps class action law suits againts the biggest offenders if we get the right data.

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There are many things that would need to be considered… but it was my basic idea for automating and speeding up our actions.

Some things that might want to be considered would be keeping the program in the hands of a select group of people – so no one somehow used it against good webmasters…. or try to taint the results by just creating all sort of false claims… if we don’t let out the beans that we have this tool, it might be less likely that the counter-minds figure out a way to debunk it. This is why i posted this in the private forums….

I’m curious is if its a good idea or not.

What would really be nice is to get the affiliate programs to turn over the cash of offending affiliates to us so that we could it to develop more prevention techniques for whatever the next black hat technique is…. those programs that did this could display the seal of being “blackhat free” or something that we came up with.

We could give the software / centralized site a name and ultimately become a hub of information about combating black hat, for other webmasters to get information about.

Of course I realize its a pipedream about getting the funds from blackhatters caught by the program or whatever, but then perhaps just a annual fee to get the seal if the affiliate program cooperates fully with this system.

[vladcizsol]

Bernie I think its an excellent idea and CAP would be happy to Help/Fund/Administer it. We have a number of dedicated servers where it can be stored or we will be happy to supply a unique one for the project (probably best as this server will undoubtably come under attack frequently).

[Anonymous]

This is a totally great idea, and thanks, Professor, for the offer.

Way cool!

[Anonymous]

Excellent idea Bernie.

:cheers:

[Anonymous]

Awesome idea, Let me know if there is anything I can do to assist.

[Anonymous]

Well, unfortunately without a skilled programmer it’s going to remain just an idea. We need someone who can

(a) program this, or
(b) commission a programmer they know who can accomplish it

What I had in mind would be css layers so that the options could appear without you even changing webpages. You could do it all right from the original SERP where you found the scum.

Any skilled programmers in the private section with time on their hands? or anyone with an extra programmer they can spare? We could setup another private forum separate from this space to have a group communication with the programmer(s).

I’m certain all us non-techies would contribute to its development. You would not be doing a volunteer job here I don’t think.

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* CAP would be happy to help Fund/Administer it. We have a number of dedicated servers where it can be stored or we will be happy to supply a unique one for the project
* WCD will donate 1000$ to the programmer

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Hope it doesnt remain just an idea!!!

[Anonymous]

I really like this idea pretty creative! Wouldn’t a script bot work, say something programmed in python? The older the language the better the performance. Not sure right now, but anyway great idea.

Lou curious you don’t have too answer, but do you have access to any cold fusion servers? greek39

[vladcizsol]

Ok my team is on it. We are developing it in PHP.

Greek we do have cold fusion servers, but the designers felt that PHP was the best solution for this application.

[Anonymous]

:clapper: What can we can do to help?

Please let us know what your team thinks the difficulty of this task is and how much time frame and finacial scope of the project because I aim to be pitching in.

:cheers:
onward!

[Anonymous]

Great work Blackhawk this idea never entered my mind. I pretty sure this will work, excellent! greek39

[vladcizsol]

Bernie the developers are making progress and we are starting to refine the tool. They need clarification on one item and I offered a suggestion based on their first mock up. Since this is your brainchild I want your input as well for the programmers:

First here is mock up of tool, its very basic and NOT anywhere near a final product. Check it out:

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/newsite/spam/index.php

Here’s my response after previewing the tool as I noticed the results being returned didnt match up with Google for me:

Quote:

Prasad where are the search results being pulled from below?

They should be Google and it would be helpful if the searcher could also select yahoo via a tick box to the right of the search button. Results would then be displayed in two clearly labeled columns with Google being the column on the left and Yahoo being the column on the right.

Here are the developers questions:

Quote:

Further details on Link #2( Affiliate T&C Violation) functionality specified below. If you
can send us how you want this functionality to be created, we can proceed along those lines.

here is what they are refering to:

Quote:

Link #2) Affiliate T&C Violation If you select this link the program will send out our own spider to find out what programs are being promoted on the offending site as well as the affiliate IDs of the offender. It should also be able to easily deal with straight re-directs.

Program then automatically generates emails to the affiliate programs reporting the offender so they can ban the account.

PART II:
We employ is a “centralized server” that collects our collective reporting in one place. It would update as we submit complaints. For instance if I report a bad site not only do the affiliate programs and google get an email about it, but our “centralized server” also gets the information providing a few extra features:

When the user clicks on the second link we can execute a script to fetch the programs that are being promoted on the offending site and affiliate IDs.
For us to be able to do that, we would need a fixed format in which the programs are listed or specific key words that we can search and parse for. Please provide further details on this and let us know if you can create a set of keywords that we can search for to identify the programs.

[Anonymous]

Way cool!

This is really coming along.

I am real excited about this.

[vladcizsol]

Yeah eventually its going to be a dynamite tool, but now I have a ton of work to do rounding up affiliate link types for all casinos, the url format, the programs the casinos are managed by and finally the email address for each program that the report is to be sent to. I am also going to have them send the error reports with email open and read confirmations so we can be sure the reports are just flying out into space…

[vladcizsol]

Ok guys I need some help if a few people pitch in this will go quickly. Heres the data we need to collect and the format needed. Lets go after the biggest offending groups first:

Here’s 888 Data:

Quote:

Casino Managed by Report Spam to:

888 Casino [email protected]

Affiliate Link Format: http://www.888.com/?sr=366110&lang=en&flag=0000

Affiliate ID 366110

I need the same data for each casino in the following groups:

Casino Pays (Complete)

Casino Partners (Complete)

Referback

Fortune Affiliates

Roxy Affiliates (Complete)

Wager Share (Complete)

Parnerlogic

Lets do those for now and then we can work thorugh the rest of the major groups

[Anonymous]

PROGRAM: CASINO PARTNERS
REPORT SPAM TO: [email protected]

CASINO BRANDS AND LINKS:

Quote:

Casino Name: Casino Tropez
Link to website:
xhttp://banner.casinotropez.com/cgi-bin/redir.cgi?id=N&member=blackhawk&profile=wcd
Direct download link: xhttp://banner.casinotropez.com/cgi-bin/SetupCasino.exe?member=blackhawk&profile=wcd
Affiliate ID: blackhawk

Quote:

Casino Name: Vegas Red
Link to website:
xhttp://banner.vegasred.com/cgi-bin/redir.cgi?id=N&member=blackhawk&profile=wcdles
Direct download link:
xhttp://banner.vegasred.com/cgi-bin/SetupCasino.exe?member=blackhawk&profile=wcdles
Affiliate ID: blackhawk

Quote:

Casino Name: Del Rio
Link to website: xhttp://banner.casinodelrio.com/cgi-bin/redir.cgi?id=N&member=blackhawk&profile=wcd
Direct download link: xhttp://banner.casinodelrio.com/cgi-bin/SetupCasino.exe?member=blackhawk&profile=wcdles
Affiliate ID: blackhawk

Quote:

Casino Name: Poker Ocean
Link to website:
xhttp://banner.pokerocean.com/cgi-bin/redir.cgi?id=N&member=blackhawk&profile=wcdles
Direct download link:
xhttp://banner.pokerocean.com/cgi-bin/SetupCasino.exe?member=blackhawk&profile=wcdles
Affiliate ID: blackhawk

Quote:

Casino Name: Titan Poker
Link to website:
xhttp://banner.titanpoker.com/cgi-bin/redir.cgi?id=N&member=blackhawk&profile=titanwcd
Direct download link:
xhttp://banner.titanpoker.com/cgi-bin/SetupCasino.exe?member=blackhawk&profile=titanwcd
Affiliate ID: blackhawk

Quote:

Casino Name: Europa
Link to website:
xhttp://banner.europacasino.com/cgi-bin/redir.cgi?id=N&member=blackhawk&profile=euslotsb
Direct download link:
xhttp://banner.europacasino.com/cgi-bin/SetupCasino.exe?member=blackhawk&profile=euslotsb
Affiliate ID: blackhawk

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