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Bonus abuse is not case specific to referback. It is just about accepted indusry practise. If I see bonus abuse mentioned, especially by any casino firm staff, I post.
Making excuses for affiliates is DENIAL. It should be THEIR responsibility to show that THEY are honest, not the other way around! I deposited $75 dollars into a new account with River Belle casino and it shows up as 1 ATTEMPTED ACCOUNT-Not even a depositing account! Their stats are honest???? I don’t think so! They suck! Period! NEXT!!!!! This is NOT something that can be smoothed over with an account manager! If they lie about the stats, they lie about the stats! Whatever the reason, they are STEALING money from my childrens mouths! XXXX you ReferBack- you lost a huge account because you cheat! Quit stroking these scumbags!
Watch your language!
domcruises101 wrote:Making excuses for affiliates is DENIAL. It should be THEIR responsibility to show that THEY are honest, not the other way around! I deposited $75 dollars into a new account with River Belle casino and it shows up as 1 ATTEMPTED ACCOUNT-Not even a depositing account! Their stats are honest???? I don’t think so! They suck! Period! NEXT!!!!! This is NOT something that can be smoothed over with an account manager! If they lie about the stats, they lie about the stats! Whatever the reason, they are STEALING money from my childrens mouths! XXXX you ReferBack- you lost a huge account because you cheat! Quit stroking these scumbags!Firstly lets address the issue of account ownership – it is well known that ReferBack assigns ownership of players based on the players history with Belle Rock.
If a player already exisits within the Belle Rock network although they show up as an Opened account under your portfolio [ your “1 ATTEMPTED ACCOUNT”] however once you made your purchase and became a Real Account you would be assigned to your historical owner.
Alternatively – should you have been recognised as an affiliate playing on his own accounts you would have been disconnected from your affiliate id as we do not allow affiliates to play and receive revenue on their own casino accounts.
If you are truly interested in giving ReferBack a fair chance to resolve this situation please supply me with an account numbers and I will investigate and revert with what happened in your case.
I edited some foul language in the quote.
domNauti Kitten wrote:I certainly didn’t mean to open a can of worms here I was only curious as to why I didn’t have any depositing players with Referback and was comparing them to another affiliate program where I had plenty. I was promoting free money from both the programs and couldn’t understand why one would convert and the other didn’t. Everyone here has been a great deal of help and it was not my intention to slam Referback as some might have taken it.:satisfied NEWS FLASH – I just checked my stats at Referback and suprisingly enough (although I didn’t change anything on my site) Lucky Nugget has had 1-Attempted Download
1-Registration
1-Depositing PlayerYeah, I have generated my first commission with Referback. 100:100 ratio. That’s what I’m talking about. Thanks Duwayne & Shane for hearing me out.
Thats great news :cheers:
Given that they signed up on a purchase offer it should show up positively in your netwin and therefore commission line
As for a can of worms – please don’t hesitate to bring your questions to either me or Duwayne, thats why we’re here… we live to serve :Nod:
Thanks everyone for your input in this matter.
“Alternatively – should you have been recognised as an affiliate playing on his own accounts you would have been disconnected from your affiliate id as we do not allow affiliates to play and receive revenue on their own casino accounts.”
Ok. I’ll bite. Why is that???
cruises101 wrote:“Alternatively – should you have been recognised as an affiliate playing on his own accounts you would have been disconnected from your affiliate id as we do not allow affiliates to play and receive revenue on their own casino accounts.”Ok. I’ll bite. Why is that???
It simply would not be a sound business decision to allow it, if it was allowed every single player in the market would be signing up as an affiliate to save a portion of their losses.
This would be financially detrimental for the affiliate programs and it’s client casinos.
It would be nothing more than a “casino rake back system” – a system which we know is not doing the current poker environment any favors.
That is common practice.
I know of only one affiliate program that allowed this, and I don’t know if they still do.
It would be financial suicide for the casinos if all the players opened affiliate accounts.
Cruises, I had to edit your post for foul language. We are pretty lenient here, but Fxxx yxx is a personal attack and we do not allow these at all. Please mind your manners. Thank you.
Why would it be financial suicide for the casinos? What difference does it make if it’s commission off of my money as a player, or Joe Blow from down the streets money. The casinos are still getting their cut off of that player whether that player signed up under my affiliation or someone else’s affiliation. The only way the casinos would benefit is if the new player went directly to the casino website without going through any affiliates website at all. And how often does that happen? The way I look at it is why is it that the casino will pay me 25% of my neighbors deposits but not 25% of my deposits. What makes my neighbors money worth more than my own?
I think that it would hurt the bottom line because quickly every savvy player would be an affiliate for a player base of one – themselves.
:notify:TheGooner wrote:I think that it would hurt the bottom line because quickly every savvy player would be an affiliate for a player base of one – themselves.
:notify:That’s exactly right.
It would hurt you too, Kitty, because why would players sign up under an affiliate if they could just be one themselves and then not only get the bonus but also the comission percentage?
Why would it be financial suicide for the casinos? What difference does it make if it’s commission off of my money as a player, or Joe Blow from down the streets money. The casinos are still getting their cut off of that player whether that player signed up under my affiliation or someone else’s affiliation. The only way the casinos would benefit is if the new player went directly to the casino website without going through any affiliates website at all. And how often does that happen? The way I look at it is why is it that the casino will pay me 25% of my neighbors deposits but not 25% of my deposits. What makes my neighbors money worth more than my own?
Referback does not carry over negatives. If you win $1000 one month, your affiliate account will be negative $250. If you lose that thousand back the next month, your affiliate account will be positive $250. Referback would be paying you $250 without making a dime for the casinos. That is why it is financial suicide.
Thanks to all for explaining this to me. I just hope that someday my income from being an affiliate will atleast cover my gambling losses. :laughcry:
Thanks everyone for your input – as always you’re spot on! :tounge2:
25/30% monthly cashback on losses overcomes the house edge in too many examples to mention.
joeyl wrote:25/30% monthly cashback on losses overcomes the house edge in too many examples to mention.:Nod: :Nod: :Nod:
