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They don’t answer phone calls anymore, they don’t respond to emails. It’s ridiculas!
Only if everyone used Netellers mentality of business!
“It has come to our attention that some recently received peer-to-peer transaction from US NETeller mebmer for the purpose of facilitating online gambling; therefore, all peer-to-peer activities have been revoked temporarily. “
Everyone of your bank accounts would (obviously) be frozen because “it has come to our attention that some recent” ATM w/d were immediately used to score some weed.
Everyone would be forced out of their homes because “it has come to our attention that some recent” home owners bought a house with the intent of creating a crack house.
Nobody could fill a prescription at the pharmacy because “it has come to our attention that some recent” precriptions were filled for junkies abusing the system.
Our vehicles would all be impounded because “it has come to our attention that some recent” hit and runs involved vehicles.
etc …
Every last one of their board members deserves to be charged with larceny and fraud.
Hey John,
Get over it. It sucks big time, but our money is gone….poof !
If it makes you feel any better, the damage to NETeller is irreparable. How in their right mind would anyone ever use them again (US or not), even if they reincarnated under a new name (like NETeller2) ?
They are obviously gonna claim bankruptcy, and if we see anything it will be pennies on the dollar, and a couple of years out. They have no empathy for US-based customers, since they feel (and probably rightly so), that they’ve been screwed by the US government. Do you think the prevailing attitude at NETeller is “those poor US customers” or “those mother-fucker US bastards” ? Actually, maybe Professor could make this a poll ??
Direct your anger towards the DOJ – which is a direct extension of Bush. Those fuckers are the ones to blame in this giant mess.
Pardon the language, but it’s Monday morning, and my anger is fresh…..
The_CPA wrote:I tend to think the money is being held in trust as they say it is.
If it weren’t, they would not publish that on the site as they have.Yes they are 100% honest and turstworthy, they would never post something that wasnt 100% true. :hehe:
Blame the DOJ only? They have no control over these foreign companies and for them to drop to the ground and willingly suck the cock of uncle sam is sickening! They should openly be saying go fuck yourself america we are doing nothing wrong; instead they put in large orders for vasoline.
I understand the frustration. Believe me, I am too.
If they were not a legitimate Publicly traded, and licensed Company, I would agree with you.Of course we are all pretty uneasy at this time, and I’m not giving them 100%vote of confidence either.
I just think the money is there, but getting it to us is where the problem lies.I still see no reason why they can’t reverse tranactions back to the senders.
By not offering that up, I believe they create more problems for themselves.
If they can’t complete the transfers that the merchants contracted, and paid them to do, then they need to give it back to them, not us.
We would have to work it out with the programs from there. JMO.Why is getting the money to us a problem in your mind?
EFT… possibly a problem.. but they are not even attempting to process checks either. You don’t need a processor to send a check or money order. They are not even attempting to make payments at this time.
so.. would they mislead? Yes, they have already done so by stating originally that they would be experiencing delayed transactions back to US accounts because of a large number of withdrawals and being backed up. That was not accurate at all because they have not processed any yet.
They were using a Bank in Arizona, I believe it is, to issue US checks.
Obviously, that account would be under scrutiny at the very least.The account may not even be affected at this time, but they may feel like they need some sort of agreement to process anything more thru it.
Again, as I mentioned earlier, I’m just guessing.Needless to say, they probably wouldn’t want to put a bunch of money in it under the current environment unless they have an agreement in place.
Of course they be working on other solutions too that we aren’t even aware of yet.
I’m just not of the opinion that they are getting out, or stealing the funds, but rather trying to ensure that when it does happen, it all goes smoothly for them, and us.
Regardless of what NEteller says they are handling this like a bunch of toddlers. My 4 year old does better PR when she has been naughty.
If they can so keenly keep our money (and I am not in the US), then why are they accepting money. People not in the US are funding their Neteller accounts and gambling. They are too happy to take new money but are sitting on the old money.
US Government Seizes Customer Funds
Now that we have waded through the excuses issued by NETeller, it has been announced that the US Justice Department has seized funds from the third party payment processor nearly three weeks after the arrests of the company’s founders. Only US customers appear to be impacted though Gambling911.com has cautioned anyone living outside the United States to tread carefully in regard to NETeller. Nearly 80% of its customer base was located within the US.USA Today quoted FBI agent Neil Donovan saying “funds from Neteller are being held in court as potential evidence. Some customers may get their money back.”
To further compound the problem, NETeller has stopped peer-to-peer transfers. US customers were being solicited by those in other countries as a means of getting money out. While friends and family members were helpful in this regard, unscrupulous individuals were most certainly waiting in the wings offering to assist. Gambling911.com, however, has not been made aware of any scams related to the NETeller peer-to-peer transfer option to date.
For a brief time up until last week, NETeller had been allowing US customers to withdraw money using a NETeller issued ATM card. By the time these cards arrived in the mail, few of the ATM cards worked.
“One of the ATM companies were allowing people to use the cards, another wasn’t,” a source told Gambling911.
Gambling911.com first broke the news that two NETeller co-founders were arrested in the US last month.
John Lefebvre and Steve Lawrence, both of Canada, were taken into custody. Both are out on a $5 million bond and must remain within a specified jurisdiction until their trial. The two men have pleaded “Not Guilty” to various charges including money laundering.
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Christopher Costigan, Gambling911.com
I would be skeptic of the USA Today report.
I don’t know how exactly Neteller works regarding bank accounts. But for sure, money held in UK and Isle of man cannot be seized by a US entity.
I think the real problem they have is to transfer funds in USD. To do that they need a US bank, and they don’t have the required conditions to do that at this time.
The DOJ is trying to destroy online gambling and doing it very well. They don’t need to act, or to have anything against anyone. They can even finish loosing cases they initiate. It does not matter if the people charged is arrested or not. At that time they will have destroyed online gambling anyway.
Imho, the DOJ wants money trails. They’ll drop the charges in exchange for some transaction data.
ssd wrote:US Government Seizes Customer Funds
Now that we have waded through the excuses issued by NETeller, it has been announced that the US Justice Department has seized funds from the third party payment processor nearly three weeks after the arrests of the company’s founders. Only US customers appear to be impacted though Gambling911.com has cautioned anyone living outside the United States to tread carefully in regard to NETeller. Nearly 80% of its customer base was located within the US.USA Today quoted FBI agent Neil Donovan saying “funds from Neteller are being held in court as potential evidence. Some customers may get their money back.”
etc, etc……
Christopher Costigan, Gambling911.comMr Costigan says ‘it has been announced’… by whom? when? A new announcement was made? Where is the supporting statements? Is he screaming this information out in headlines based on the information that was available a week ago? No new information, no new contacts, just the same single statement that was made by a lone and low ranked FBI agent who would later refuse to confirm or make any further statements? The question is still the same – who’s got the money, because there is no evidence to support the claim that the DOJ has the funds. As far as I can tell, everything is just fubar. I think the article was written to add fuel to the fire. I would like to know what new information was used to justify the headline and the first paragraph of the article… “Now that we have waded through the excuses issued by NETeller, it has been announced that the US Justice Department has seized funds from the third party payment processor nearly three weeks after the arrests of the company’s founders.
Siouxzee wrote:I think the article was written to add fuel to the fire. I would like to know what new information was used to justify the headline and the first paragraph of the article… “Now that we have waded through the excuses issued by NETeller, it has been announced that the US Justice Department has seized funds from the third party payment processor nearly three weeks after the arrests of the company’s founders.That writer always writes in a way that adds fuel to a fire. Gets more coverage and readers that way. I think its totally irresponsible to report something as factual when you really dont have facts. I too would love to know about new information that justified this article. I personally aliken it to screaming fire in a croweded room. People who create panic in a false manner are worthless pieces of ahem; sorry.
:shots:At the same time something is going on. Neteller have been out and out lying to us. They told us up to two weeks; now they are disabling accounts just to prevent us from moving OUR fn money. What a joke that is folks!
