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April 23, 2004 at 4:18 pm #585183AnonymousInactive
it happened for the first time to me just now. doing the links thing and came across some sites that were 404’s, so i shot a heads up to the webmaster.
he told me he shut the sites down because google and yahoo changed their policies on online gambling and he feared the potential ramifications of being a United States citizen and promoting online gambling. he didn’t feel like defending himself from possible aiding and abetting charges.
anyone else run across this scenerio yet?
April 23, 2004 at 4:22 pm #648255AnonymousInactiveNot yet – but I hear people talking about doing that.
April 24, 2004 at 1:29 am #648292AnonymousInactiveHi Bob,
Yes, I have seen this and expect many that are not making much money or very little to shut their sites down soon. The newbies might as well shut down for they have not a prayer making it in this business. For the rest of us only time will tell. I will say this many of us are now at the total mercy of Google and other major search engines. It is a very volital situation we are all in. If I am contacted by the US Gov. and told to shut my sites down, I will comply asap. This is a possibilty that we, that have good search engine ranking may face. Those at the top will probally be contacted first and so on. It stands to reason if the major search engines are bailing out of online gambling advertising, then they know the deal. They have obviously been warned to discontinue or face legal action. Are our days number in this business? In my opinion I think so. How long do we US webmasters have left? Only time will tell.April 24, 2004 at 4:07 am #648307AnonymousInactiveThis may be a stupid question, but how much of an edge does one have w/ a server outside the USA? Is that not relevant if you’re a US resident?
April 24, 2004 at 4:12 am #648308AnonymousGuestI think it’s pretty relevant, since so much of the market is american.
I don’t know if they can do anything to stop americans from gambling online, though.
They have much more control over portal owners, etc.
I think, and I hope, that this is a temporary hardship. You have to think that they’ll come to their senses eventually………………….:p So many other countries are taking the logical step of regulating the industry. The U.S. is sure to follow suit, even if on a state by state basis.
April 24, 2004 at 5:19 am #648312AnonymousInactiveDon’t worry they will come to their senses.
The Governments are addicted to gambling and will NEVER kick
the habit. The Illuminati needs it to give hope to those in
a hopeless situation … LOL.
Let’s hope that when they do allow it, they will not
OVER regulate it.
:rolleyes:
April 24, 2004 at 11:51 am #648319AnonymousInactiveRegulation in the US would put us all out of business. Las Vegas casinos would take over and they would not need affiliates.
April 24, 2004 at 12:15 pm #648322vladcizsolMemberRegulation in the US would put us all out of business. Las Vegas casinos would take over and they would not need affiliates.
Exactly true…
April 24, 2004 at 1:39 pm #648325AnonymousInactiveYes, I have seen this and expect many that are not making much money or very little to shut their sites down soon. The newbies might as well shut down for they have not a prayer making it in this business. For the rest of us only time will tell.
Unfortunately I think I agree with this. It is getting to be a difficult market to break into – although I think with SEO, time and patience it can still be done.
Regulation in the US would put us all out of business. Las Vegas casinos would take over and they would not need affiliates.
This I disagree with. I do think regulation would mean that Vegas etc. will enter the online market – as a matter of fact I think miraculously regulation will happen when they are poised and ready to do so.
But I highly doubt that the offshore casinos will roll over and die – I think there will be a lot of fierce competition and a shake out.
Wherever there is competition, advertising rules.
April 24, 2004 at 3:03 pm #648332AnonymousInactiveIf they regulate, and the Vegas casinos get involved, there will still be room for affiliates. Even Vegas casinos advertise, and the rev share model on the internet is a big win for the provider.
But I think you can expect a much smaller rev-share opportunity from a Vegas casino. And I think you can expect much more aggressive advertising on the casino’s own behalf.
April 24, 2004 at 3:40 pm #648335AnonymousInactiveI think that Randy’s on target. Affiliates will still be a viable method of marketing, even for the big Las Vegas names. However, these 35-40% deals aren’t gonna be there.
Still, in a regulated marketplace, where gamblers know they can trust the casinos, and credit card purchases are allowed, I bet we’d all make more money at 5% than we’re making now at 35%.
April 24, 2004 at 3:52 pm #648336AnonymousInactiveStill, in a regulated marketplace, where gamblers know they can trust the casinos, and credit card purchases are allowed, I bet we’d all make more money at 5% than we’re making now at 35%.
That is entirely possible.
I have no doubt that regulation will change the playing field – but I am quite sure that we will be there.
Also, regulation will have to be so anyone can apply and comply with the rules. I do not think that we will be confined to US landbased casinos. There will be others – my guess is that the software companies will have flagship properties apply.
Also, regulation does not prevent offshore casinos from competing on the web, even if the US has a lot of policies in place to trip them up. Britain’s licencing is not going to put anyone in Antigua out of business. I don’t think the US will either – there will just be a shake-out due to oldfashioned competition..
April 24, 2004 at 7:55 pm #648345AnonymousInactiveQuote
This I disagree with. I do think regulation would mean that Vegas etc. will enter the online market – as a matter of fact I think miraculously regulation will happen when they are poised and ready to do so.But I highly doubt that the offshore casinos will roll over and die – I think there will be a lot of fierce competition and a shake out.
Agree entirely … in the porn business the established players
got a beating and a half from the new and smaller players …
Vegas, Atlantic City etc fear the same thing could happen to them.
:rolleyes:
April 24, 2004 at 8:16 pm #648348AnonymousInactiveIf you take a good look at the UK market the established & regulated land based casinos are doing no better than offshore casinos. I’m sure casino on net still gets more activity there than William Hill.
Antoine
April 25, 2004 at 3:35 am #648372AnonymousInactiveMaybe not directly related – maybe so …
I just seen a news article stating that several very high ranking officials (John Kerry, Tom Daschle, Orrin Hatch,, Bill Frist, etc) are working on legistlation that would require internet access to be installed in all new homes, apartments, etc …
So it appears they want you on the internet for some reason – the way I see it is if they want you there they must believe they have or will have something to gain by it in the future.
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