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October 21, 2005 at 7:18 pm #590708AnonymousInactive
PR updated on 2 of my sites today, is this a system wide update or do they update site by site? I think it’s system wide.
Did your PR update today?October 21, 2005 at 7:29 pm #674787vladcizsolMemberGoogle is doing a major update dubbed “Jagger”.
PR and back links are being adjusted currently and its expected the process wont be fully complete until early next week. After that Google has indicated there will be ANOTHER update mid week and ANOTHER one the following week before all the “Jagger” changes are complete.
SO, the fun with Google will last for roughly another 10 days….
PS: I am moving this thread to the Search Engine Optimization forum so its near the other Google discussions.
October 21, 2005 at 7:44 pm #674788AnonymousInactiveGood to know Professor, thanks for the info and quick reply.
October 21, 2005 at 11:04 pm #674796AnonymousInactiveJust so people are aware, jagger is updating the visual PR (ie: what you see in your Google toolbar when you visit a site). The real PR is updated behind the scenes on an on-going basis. At the point Google does an update, that’s the only time your PR score can be considered accurate. As soon as you start acquiring more links, you PR will change, but you won’t know what it is until the next update.
As an aside, PR is more of a novelty item. It is important for attracting link partners, but in the end it doesn’t do much for your SERPS if you don’t have a solid linking strategy.
October 21, 2005 at 11:24 pm #674800AnonymousInactivewebber286 wrote:As an aside, PR is more of a novelty item. It is important for attracting link partners, but in the end it doesn’t do much for your SERPS if you don’t have a solid linking strategy.Yep, as far as I am concerned, the only thing PR is good for is to attract link partners.
And you attract link partners to increase your PR.
When I link, which I do as little as possible, I look at SERPS.
Consequently I have a PR of 5 that should be a lot higher, and lots of good SERPS.
PR is for the birds. :hehe:
October 21, 2005 at 11:27 pm #674801AnonymousInactivePR 5 is very good for a site in our niche.
October 21, 2005 at 11:37 pm #674804AnonymousInactiveI would agree that once you obtain a PR5 or PR6 it then becomes a useless metric. But, if you do a search for any moderately competitive term in our industry, the first page of results are unlikely to have anything less than a PR4 on them. So PR is a relative sign of site strength, and is something to strive for in general, just not an accurate guage of what you can expect.
October 22, 2005 at 5:34 am #674815AnonymousInactiveNot to mention that high PR makes you look sexy to potential advertisers… that little green bar’s actually important to some people.
October 22, 2005 at 7:49 am #674818AnonymousInactiveWell I had and still have a PR5 on the home page of freepokerleague.com one click deep got PR2, I recently changed all the URL’s so that’s good. What was pleasing is the PR3 on pokertournaments.ws and the PR2 one click deep on a site which is less than 1 month old. I registered it on 2005-09-24.
October 22, 2005 at 9:28 pm #674852AnonymousInactiveIs Google the only PR10 site?
October 22, 2005 at 10:48 pm #674857AnonymousInactiveFreePokerLeague wrote:Is Google the only PR10 site?no, there are some others. do a search on seochat. I remember a thread about pr 10s there.
October 23, 2005 at 2:04 pm #674877AnonymousInactivemsn.com has a PR2 at the moment.
October 25, 2005 at 4:51 am #675008AnonymousInactiveYeah, that PR2 for MSN sucks. MSN is one of the biggest sites out there was was at PR9, I think that is pretty shady of google if google can purposly alter their competitor’s page rank like that, it is not right. It’s almost too obvious that google did something like that on purpose to it’s biggest competitor right before MSN starts up their own PPC business and that is unfair. Even so, MSN is probably one of the most popular homepage on browsers and everyone knows what MSN is anyways.
Does anyone know if google can do these types of things to any website they want, or specifically block out specific sites? Or if google just had some problems indexing and didnt quite get through the site or came up with an error and just didn’t finish it’s job?
Also, is there a way to get out of the sandbox before the 6-8 months are up for a new website? Like say paying google to lift the sandbox, or call them up?
October 25, 2005 at 2:39 pm #675031AnonymousInactiveThe PR 2 on MSN thing is a canonical URL problem from what I understand, not a deliberate attempt by Google to do anything to a competitor.
I don’t think that contacting Google and asking to be removed from the sandbox would be a good idea. You probably don’t have enough money to bribe anyone working there, especially considering how well their stock is doing. Your time would probably be better spent adding good quality content and getting high quality backlinks.
Here are a few PR 10 sites:
w3.org
adobe.com
nytimes.com
real.com
apple.com
whitehouse.gov
macromedia.comOctober 25, 2005 at 4:44 pm #675046AnonymousInactiveHere’s another PR10
statcounter.com
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