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dhayman,
I hope yo don’t think I was shooting you down, friend =0)
I truly appreciate all the advice and offers for help. It’s just that — at this point — I have tried to spin this stuff every way I can… without success.
The only thing to do now is shut down, leave the state, or sell.
Integrity,
No offense taken, my friend. Just offering some advice – if one piece can help, then it was worth it.
Let us know your new name, if you go into the WPP (Witness Protection Program).
dhayman wrote:Let us know your new name, if you go into the Witness Protection Program.I was thinking of:
Integrity.ca
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LOL, Integrity. On a more serious note, don’t forget about the sandbox effect (specifically, with Google), if you look to “relocate” your domain. Although ISP (i.e. IP address) transfer will never hurt your rankings, transfer to a new domain will most certainly will. Again, my concern for you is with purely organic search results, and specifically, with Google.
Hey, Washington State…
…mysites are down.
Now just watch how well all your lawmaking slows down this industry. :rolleyes:
Integrity – just wanted to see how you are doing in all this mess.
since the state found your site – how easy would it be for them to find this one and see all the information that people have been putting in here – as someone said – they will block the ip address for the state –
Holis wrote:Integrity – just wanted to see how you are doing in all this mess.I am holding up. My sites will soon be sold and I will be involved in this industry only to the extent that I oversee the APCW.
Holis wrote:…they will block the ip address for the state –I wish they would do that! Because if it were that simple, I would have just blocked the IP Address for the state and kept going.
From my understanding, there is no “state” IP Address. In fact, IP Addresses are somewhat random and impossible to block a geographical region within a country.
I may have been able to block an entire country… but what’s the use at that point? And if I did, and a new set of IP’s opened up in Washington that I didn’t know about (and thus didn’t block) I could be in violation of the law and never know it.
America.
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Use of this sites resources are at your own RISK! Please gamble responsibly.
Check your local laws to see if online gambling is legal in your area.
You are responsible for any and all losses or legal issues in regards to use of this site and content.I dont give a flying rats arse! This is my little note on my site.. Way I look at it… there is NO way anyone can hold me responsible for someone visiting my site that would break the law because my site is international and I cant have any way of knowing who will access my site. Its up to the person at this point to take it into their own hands. Hey.. I make it VERY CLEAR that their could be issues where they live when it comes to internet gambling. This is there responsibility.. NOT mine.
I paid a lawyer for this info and he gave me his word holding a picture of my son that it was sound.Unfortunately I think the way the law would look at the disclaimer is quite different. It admits that what you present is not legal in some places. It still affords a person a chance to use the information even if it is illegal to do so. Therefore you are contributing to the crime by enabling the person access to the site. This is what the porn sites have had a problem with and why net nanny and other measures are used to stop minors from accessing porn sites. A disclaimer on a site that is an attractive nuisance won’t save your ass if they find out minors have been using it. I think the same would be true if they found gamblers were using it to get information from places where their activity was illegal.
It is sort of like putting up a sign that says beware of dog. It is admitting that the animal is dangerous and won’t stop someone from successfully suing you should the dog bite that person, even on your property. Also similar to putting up a sign near a swimming pool. It is an attractive nuisance and if someone is injured or drowns you may still be found liable to some extent.
Granted this is just my take on this deal, but considering my recent experience with the local law in my state I don’t have much faith in them thinking you were trying to do the right thing. DA’s are just looking to hang you and will put any spin they can on the thing to serve their own needs. They may know that they don’t have a strong case but will make you spend thousands to defend yourself in hopes that you will take a lesser plea bargain. They look real good because they get a conviction on a lesser charge but its still a conviction and you have to take it because they will ruin you financially and there is always the slim chance they might get a conviction. I have first hand knowledge of this.
I found this online today.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06162/697357-84.stm
Interesting quote:
Despite its illegality, an estimated 4 million to 7 million Americans are Internet gamblers, with poker driving the latest surge. The state of Washington made wagers over the Internet a felony starting June 7, but officials there have indicated they will not be enforcing the law aggressively.
Well heres one… What if I put on my site that using the content when you should not will result in “ME” suing you?
What if I put on my site that using the content when you should not will result in “ME” suing you?
I think a lot of users and law men would hurt themselves… laughing.
Regarding the concept of ‘aiding and abetting’ if you’re getting a percent of the revenue couldn’t it be said you were more of a partner in the business, which could be worse than simply aiding and abetting?
Also a question for you Integrity… You said you’re possibly selling some sites. I’m interested in perhaps finding a buyer for some sites I have that rank at the very top in goog for some of the best keywords related to sports betting.
I was always too scared to put up ads, so never made a dime from that. The money I’ve let slip out the window, it’s sickening. I need to find a buyer in a legal friendly country. Any ideas?I have given well over $10,000 for the cause via the IGC and it was money well spent. Not including the IGC fees, companies like Wager Logic and Microgaming have contributed tons, as well as Golden Palace and other large portals. We all need to help.
islandmaan wrote:I have given well over $10,000 for the cause via the IGC and it was money well spent. Not including the IGC fees, companies like Wager Logic and Microgaming have contributed tons, as well as Golden Palace and other large portals. We all need to help.Good man.. I cant even give near that much..
