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Per several affiliates request, I have tracked down some good alternate affiliate networks outside of VIP Profits for those wishing to market within the US sector. All of the programs mentioned in this email are reputable and stable. They all continue to convert US players and have the right payment solutions in place and are managed by a group set to stay around for the foreseeable future and defiantly accept US players for March Madness and the triple crown events.
Here are a few sportsbook affiliate programs I know accept US players and I advise you to check out.
BetUS – they have been around for several years and shown to us all that they can turn things around and convert players into depositors through their choice of payment solutions. They are dedicated to working with affiliates and have awesome looking creatives and start on 25% commissions going up to 35%. Should you have been on a higher commission scale at VIP Profits they are more than willing to match this by signing up with them, then emailing me, and I will contact them to confirm. They will be paying double commissions in the first month.
Bet Empire – a fairly new company on the block but their sportsbook software is the best I have ever seen and truly targeted to the recreational gambler with payment solutions in place. They have great banners and over the coming weeks plan to add many cool tools and features to their affiliate website. They start from 25% commissions, and once again should you have been an affiliate of VIP Profits, please use the below link then email me and I will make sure you get the same commissions that you got with VIP Profits.
Intertops – this program has been around forever and they do accept US players and have solutions in place. They were one of the first sportsbook affiliate programs to offer tools and content for webmasters sites. They pay up to 35% commissions.
Sportsbook.com – the name alone speaks for itself, and after several calls with their affiliate managers I am confident they are staying around. They are offering 40% commissions to VIP Profits affiliates.
BetUS? You cannot be serious.
This is a an operation known for stiffing their own customers when their balances get too large. Please remove them from your list. :nono:
Simon, you forgetting anyone?
Simon’s not forgetting anyone – he’s spamming with cheap affiliate tags from a commission program and hawking any old trash that will pay him for a signup.
:rasberry:Sportsbook.com and BetUS.com are both crappy outfits that are slow paying players and should not be promoted.
Mouseover those links for the affiliate tags.
:spam:Just like the baiting email about domains for sale that was jam-packed with sub-affiliate links.
And ditto on BetUS you have to be joking.
The criteria for his choice seems to be this:
They all continue to convert US players and have the right payment solutions in place and are managed by a group set to stay around for the foreseeable future and defiantly accept US players for March Madness and the triple crown events
So that means expectation of continuation of facing the US.
I am sure that if you list other criteria he will have input about books to match those. He has been in the online sports book industry for a very, very long time and knows it inside out.
Of course if there are reasons to avoid the above mentioned ones affs want to know about it, too.
I have no opinion about sportsbooks, never dealth with them, just pointing out the criteria for his choice.
Re. spam: I got the letter too. It was ill conceived in that it was lacking the usual explanation of how you got on that list and an optout. Simon needs to remedy that.
Re. aff links in this post: I defer to the Professor.
I have met Simon. I am disappointed as well regarding the affiliate links he purports as recommended sportsbooks. I also received the email as well.
How sad. Unfortunately, it gives the impression (real or not) that Simon is attempting to make money off the hardship of U.S. webmasters.
Dominique wrote:I have no opinion about sportsbooks, never dealth with them, just pointing out the criteria for his choice.I don’t even have a problem with affiliate links Dom – although as you say it may be against board rules – IF I thought that he’d actually seriously done the work to check out these sites and was recommending quality institutions.
But Sportsbook.com and BetUS.com are both crappy outfits that are slow paying players and should not be promoted. There are plenty of tales of unpaid punters – they are not valid choices for serious affiliates.
So I’m left with the impression that rather than us his obvious experience in the industry to give affiliates a peice of good advice – he’ll offer anyone who pays him for recruiting affiliates.
That’s the reason for my rant …
:madat:(And I’m sure you’d do the same if he popped up next week offering fly-by-night dodgy casinos too)
:wink-winkSorry that you guys feel I am spamming and scum of the earth. If you feel that way then my apologies to you. I have gone out of my way on more occasions than one for the good of the affiliates and assisted them in dealing with issues and referring them to places with no financial gain to myself. I have met and also paid for many affiliates to attend events yet they steal feel like bitching about me on this forum. It is pretty sad that this is the case.
After hunting around for alternate sportsbook affiliate programs for my own I mentioned this to other affiliates after chatting with them, and yes on some programs I do get paid as a second tier affiliate. If you don’t want to sign up under me then DONT! Please note I am not harming your marketing efforts at all and you are not loosing money (just pointing you in the right directions).
TheGooner is a guy who has it out to attack me from day one even though I have done nothing to offend him and he just enjoys ripping people to shreads. That is the kind of person he is.
I am putting faith into BetUS because they do convert for me and others and have turned around significantly since they started. The other programs mentioned do care about their affiliates and that is the reason I mentioned.
Simoneaton wrote:TheGooner is a guy who has it out to attack me from day one even though I have done nothing to offend him and he just enjoys ripping people to shreads. That is the kind of person he is.Simon this has nothing to do with YOU … it’s your recommendation of both Sportsbook.com and BetUS.com .. they’re shoddy.
You may notice I had no issue with the other two sites.
Simoneaton wrote:I am putting faith into BetUS because they do convert for me and others and have turned around significantly since they started. The other programs mentioned do care about their affiliates and that is the reason I mentioned.They have not “turned around” – they’re still screwing players – and recently stopped paying players for a period of 14 days. This is fairly well known – and I’d certainly you to be aware and so not be pushing them.
They might be paying YOU right now – but they’re hardly a reputable and safe place for players to be betting – and the suggestion that they should be recommended is bogus.
As you pretend to see nothing wrong with them – I take up the right in this affiliate forum to alert affiliates to the real status of this place.
(see http://www.sportsbookreview.com/SR.aspx?s=betus for details)
TheGooner,
Sorry for shooting off at you, just felt I was getting bombarded and attacked but I do feel you have done your homework.
I have spent a few weeks chatting with BetUS and surprised that they are not paying the players as the forums I have checked (therx etc) have no recent issues of no or slow pay. I will look into them more.
Sportsbook.com is a company that converts well based on their name, and has no prior issues. Betempire is a new company on the block and untested at this stage, but the software is great, and yes I do know the owner here and have some faith in him and his operation.
Bodog do not seem to be on top of things when contacting them by email but does well for me as an affiliate. But because they have no real program website to refer affiliates to, I am not pushing them.
Intertops on the other hand I have no dealings with apart from being an affiliate of which I send players to, and heard of no complaints from them.
Simoneaton wrote:TheGooner,Sorry for shooting off at you, just felt I was getting bombarded and attacked but I do feel you have done your homework.
No Problem Simon – I’ve found you to generally be straight up front about your postings … and I always appreciate that !!
:kisser:Perhaps I started a little strong in my reply … but given your standing in the industry I expected you to know the score on BetUs.com and Sportsbook.com – and that’s probably why the rant kicked in early …
:cuss:Unfortunately, if a player gets stiffed it tends to reflect on the whole industry, and the resulting publicity tends to a negatively affect player confidence (as I’m sure you know).
:1circlingIn times like these – it’s imperative that affiliates share the good info – and we find the best places for affilaites AND players.
:3eyes:Sportsbook.com and BetUS.com are both crappy outfits that are slow paying players and should not be promoted.
Hi all,
WOW! I’m overwhelmed that sportsbook.com is said to be this way.
I’ve very rarely promoted them (almost never) but have been a player with them …..geez since almost before I started (maybe before) I became to enjoy the aff side of things.
Sportsbook.com has always paid me … in a timely fashion and I’ve never had a complaint about them (as a player …. I’m not sure I ever signed anybody up as an aff )
I have no financial reason or gain to say anything good about sportsbook.com ….. yet as mentioned ….. I have been a player with them …. golly at least 6 years …… probably more like 7 or 8 … before I ever listed them (even then it was for a short time and then the new law came into effect so I pulled them) …..
never had a complaint to say about them. They even as recently as after this super bowl ….. ( i let my account run until the end of the season every year and then cash in) ….. they’ve paid me in a timely fashion without giving me reason to complain.
I have …… at last probably 6 or more times cashed in (bigtime) playing their blackjack and playing at small amounts until I hit a run (admittedly they are few and far between) ….but I am one of those that increases when winning …. and with them to the point of reaching the max amount ….which I think is as memory serves …is $200 per hand……. and have cashed out literally thousands …… (its one of the few places I can safely and of course …. truthfully claim I’m ahead of the game) …. and they’ve always paid me without trouble.
this long before I became an aff so they had no angle (that wise) to pay me over others.
Frankly I am amazed to read this. Truthfully they’ve had every reason to screw me around … as I’ve played their bj at $1 a hand to increasing it to $200 a hand (when winning) … … and truth…… every reason in the world to screw me over.
I finally listed them (for the short period before it became apparent that sportsbooks fell under the wire act) ….. but that was long after knowing that I could list them with all confidence.
Now I admit I don’t bet huge amounts on sports ….and perhaps they were screwing the big timers who’d win on sports bets ….. but I know when they looked at my bj records … they had every reason (for a scumbag place) to not want to pay me because i played at such small amounts until I hit a winning streak and then increased literally to 200% more …… something many scumbag places would claim I was what those types of places label such a situation as an “advantage player”.
…very surprised … and disappointed to read this thread.
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Simon …
while I’ve never signed up under him …. or at least made him any money … to his credit I”ve always thought he was a decent bloke for being around and not dodging situations.
He’s proven that again here. and yes I got his spam emails lately which I didn’t condemn simply because he’s always been around to answer for things.
calling them as I see them. Simon better than anybody …. knows I have no reason to endorse him. Perhaps after all these years of wondering why I never took advantage of his service …..he’ll appreciate that i didn’t run …..or ignore the current situation …… but rather told the truth as I saw it.
Now all that said. I neither endorse ….nor condemn him or his emails. Just adding my 2 cents as I see it. I hope most can appreciate my honest addition to this thread.
Sportsbook.com are awful mate … and yes it’s the medium / big players who are getting stiffed. Small fry and losing players never have a problem.
:Cry:Here is a shortcut to a search http://www.sportsbookreview.com/SR.aspx?s=sportsbook.com
(although you then have to manually filter out some other entries that happen to use the word Sportsbook)
:tounge2:Bascially, they’re all owned by the same outfit (Jazette Enterprises Limited) who have repeated this pattern with every one of their Sportsbooks.
Whether they’re simply under capatilized or having other problems I don’t know – but it’s been going on for many months. They are simply not providing payouts to many players in a timely manner.
Maybe affiliates are looked after better – but if players are getting stiffed then affiliates should know and be making an ethical choice.
but it’s been going on for many months.
Hi G,
very happy I had already pulled them then … and sorry to hear this about them because as mentioned ….. as a player they’ve been very satisfying to me over literally years and years.
Now that said: I admit the last cashout … was only for $350 (and change) …..
the last big cashout i had with them was when I still used NETeller .. some time ago.
question?: did they have these reputation problems before the new law (in the states) ?
I’d surely have bet my right leg they’d pay and be reliable ….. right up until I read this thread. ….. shows how good I am at things ….. but I DO try. thus the reason it took me so long to list them even after having had so many years of satisfaction with them as a player.
Currently to prove that point more ….. I’ve just deposited into one of the few casinos i still list ….. won a bit …. and cashed out ….. not because I wanted/needed the money so much …. (in fact I’d rather have kept gambling) …… but rather to see if they are paying players in timely fashion.
Can’t/won’t mention who until I have my conclusions on that particular casino / subject.
But I DO try and check these things out. Very surprised to find this out about Sportsbook.com, and very unhappy to hear it.
thanks all for those who brought this to my attention.
