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I don’t know if to consider this post as a “bad programs” but it’s more like information about what’s going on behind the scenes in playtech’s development center (software developers for casino.com, tropez and others)
I was working in playtech in Estonia and saw that this company has built in Estonia an army of Estonian slaves to develop their casino productsthis company playtech eventually fired me because I refused to cooperate with the ugly way of working which personally looks to me like a mafia…
Anyway now I am developing a game that is called “the story of a dwarf and a crook” and this game will be based on a true story
the dwarf and the crock are based on real people from the top management of play-tech
wait and seeI have just read this.
What exactly do you mean by estonian slaves?
Its a very bold claim to refer to an organization of hiring slaves and operating as a maffia
sorry maybe I should have elaborated about this more…
Estonia is a country in east Europe that is a state of dip financial crisis, people have no money to buy food, people freeze and die on the streets since the weather is -20 degrees now
play tech made all the employees sign on a contract that basically sais that if an employee leaves the company he has no other place to work in, (the claim to sign this contract is that “if you don’t sign, you’re out”)
I can tell you a lot more… but maybe wait for my game?
Mr. Lauferb
What’s the objective of this post – to promote your new game or degrade playtech?
Playtech is a publicly traded company and I have never heard of them treating their employees badly. If you have any genuine issues and want some resolution, it will be fruitful taking it up with Playtech’s management.
Every company has their own contracts, but I haven’t heard of any country where an ex-employer can restrict you to work and earn your livelihood in the same area of work. If you are a coder you will take up the new job with a similar job profile in a different company. You can’t become an accountant at your new job, can you? Labour laws in every company understand this concern and protects the employee.
@Satya 213749 wrote:
– to promote your new game or degrade playtech?
Playtech is a publicly traded company and I have never heard of them treating their employees badly.
just b/c a company is listed doesn’t mean it isn’t run by unscrupulous assholes. I have worked for a listed gaming company which broke the law repeatedly, with no accountability.
@Satya 213749 wrote:
Every company has their own contracts, but I haven’t heard of any country where an ex-employer can restrict you to work and earn your livelihood in the same area of work.
Welcome to the world of the non-compete clause.
I have no doubt what the OP said is true..
with regarding to playtech, I can tell you that there are rotten people there, I was working there 2.5 years, people that got into this industry only because they saw that there is so much money in it and manage to stay there only because they know how to manipulate in a very ugly way the people that are actually doing the work.
there are also a lot of very talented people in playtech, there is a reason why this company is successful, but there are also real scumbags…with regarding to my game it was supposed to be a FREE flash game with no profit
but actually I decided to make another game instead..by the way, you know that this forum was supposed to be for affiliates to freely discuss issues?
so I have 1 question: what does it mean “senior” next to your title Mr. staya,
please tell me what is your experience in the affiliation world? did you ever bring 1 player into this industry?
you know, I can also write “senior” next to my name in my web sites that promote games of this industry,(b.t.w the very “nice” design of this forum web-site explains why this industry cannot bring the players and need us the affiliates
@pokerseo 213756 wrote:
just b/c a company is listed doesn’t mean it isn’t run by unscrupulous assholes. I have worked for a listed gaming company which broke the law repeatedly, with no accountability.
Welcome to the world of the non-compete clause.
I have no doubt what the OP said is true..Mate, I can’t dispute this fact about listed companies breaking laws. I am also not saying Playtech is saint
If you browse through different forums you would have a feel of the love some affiliates have for playtech. I do understand no compete clauses but the one mentioned by lauferb is ridiculous. Just because someone worked for you, he can’t work anywhere else is a one sided clause and is exploitation. If this is infact true, it will not stand in any court of law. I may be wrong, but that’s my understanding. please check the post below.@lauferb 213689 wrote:
play tech made all the employees sign on a contract that basically sais that if an employee leaves the company he has no other place to work in, (the claim to sign this contract is that “if you don’t sign, you’re out”)
I can tell you a lot more… but maybe wait for my game?
@lauferb 213759 wrote:
by the way, you know that this forum was supposed to be for affiliates to freely discuss issues?
so I have 1 question: what does it mean “senior” next to your title Mr. staya,
please tell me what is your experience in the affiliation world? did you ever bring 1 player into this industry?
you know, I can also write “senior” next to my name in my web sites that promote games of this industry,(b.t.w the very “nice” design of this forum web-site explains why this industry cannot bring the players and need us the affiliates
You are right it’s free to discuss any topic in this forum and any other forum in the industry. That’s the whole idea
You would find loads of knowledge and helpful people who can help you in becoming a successful affiliate in the forums. You will get all the help needed if you are genuinely victimised by any parties. But your post sounded like a flame and thus my response. I mean no harm otherwise.I am sorry I have absolutely why there is senior next to my name. It is possibly a default title. But I do have a few players :tongue: that I got into this industry. All the best for your affiliate business and please vote for Captain
@Satya 213760 wrote:
Just because someone worked for you, he can’t work anywhere else is a one sided clause and is exploitation. If this is infact true, it will not stand in any court of law. I may be wrong, but that’s my understanding. please check the post below.
you are incorrect. I had a non-compete clause in my last contract (SEOing for a listed gambling company) which stated that i can’t work for their competitors for 6 months.. I think it will stand in court if you were paid off.. otherwise I guess you can’t stop a man from fishing as it were.
@pokerseo 213761 wrote:
you are incorrect. I had a non-compete clause in my last contract (SEOing for a listed gambling company) which stated that i can’t work for their competitors for 6 months.. I think it will stand in court if you were paid off.. otherwise I guess you can’t stop a man from fishing as it were.
Paid off is the keyword
If the company compensates you for the loss of income, that is a fair deal, though most employees will avoid this clause in the contract.Doesn’t look like our friend here mentions any sort of compensation. Pls check his post
If what he says is true it is either clear exploitation or ….@Satya 213760 wrote:
I am sorry I have absolutely why there is senior next to my name.
Probably because you are getting to be an old coot. :3eyes:
Thanks for the feedbacks,
I can tell you that the law is not easy to implement especially when it comes to doing so against a rich and international company.
I’ll tell you from my experience: basically after I was fired from playtech (in quite an ugly way) I took a lawyer in order to press charges against playtech.
since Playtech is international and has offices in many countries, my lawyer did not know which company he should file the charges against.
(Eventually I filed charges against 2 companies: playtech Estonia, and playtech IMan)also I had to pay high state-fee for the court to be able to press charges against a company abroad,
also playtech (since it’s a rich company) took one of the most expenssive lawyers that is basically now trying to make my lawsuit fail from any technical reasons that he can think of.
add to it the time that it took me, the money that it costs,
basically things like these can make any person think twice before taking the law as helper against a company like playtech.Pretty much any company that can afford high paid lawyers will do, as they tend to be the best.
You got fired. Get over it. Most massive conglomerates and publicly traded companies utilise labout from outside their own country, as the labout tends to be cheaper. Next you will be telling me that you are also going to take on Nike and other sportwear companies for producing stuff in India or China, or that you wont drink coffee as the beans come from a coutry where they pay a pittance.
I am not defending them, or saying that this is necessarily acceptable personally, but its the way of the world – anyone in business buys or supplies a product that they have bought for cheaper than they sell it for.
Sorry, dude – think you should just write this off to experience and move on. And a 6 month non competitor clause is pretty standard not just in this industry, but also quite a few others (although you got fired, so the contract doesnt count, so you *could* go and work somewhere else without any problems – if you had resigned, then you would have had to honour the contract, and they would normally (and by *they* I mean any company) would pay you for this time off as gardening leave).
Take care
OK seems like this thread created a big riot and also my things were manipulated (something that happens to me often)
I didn’t think to continue this thread but I guess that I just have to… so:theboymitchel, you are “Affiliates United” (that is basically playtech), adding the fact that you answered to my post so fast makes me think that you just don’t like that I say bad things about your money machine don’t you?
besides this I didn’t see any real substance in your post, the comparison to Nike is not relevant, and also other things.
“get over it” is not such a strong argument isn’t it?
but anyway, thanks for the tip, I AM over it, I have my own company now and lots of ideas that will add value to the industry.I decided that I’ll refer only to my personal experience since I can talk only about myself and not about others,
basically I said before to play-tech’s management (and my things were ignored): I don’t have anything to hide
well,
my problem is not that I was fired, but that it was based on a LIE and was very ugly and humiliating,
I was fired due to a failure of another person (the crook) it was a pure management failure,
but it’s easy to put the blame on the simple technical worker / developer / the lowest chain in command & hierarchy in a big IT corporation.the thing is that I don’t like it! I was working very hard for 2.5 years! I don’t care if the failure belongs to a high position manager.
This person does not have the privilege to lie and put the blame on me despite his power in the management.besides this I see this crook as responsible for many other ugly ways of how this big corporation behaves.
my way of being fired is a behavior of a bully: fire a person in a humiliating way, show your power so other people will be afraid to open their mouths…you know, I can publish things that happened to me in the last 2.5 years that will make any person that read this turn white!
don’t you care crook about the stock value of playtech? you know what will happen to it if I do this?
maybe you are trying to manipulate this situation to be me against play-tech? it’s not, it’s only me against you
this industry does not need crooks in it, crooks don’t contribute to it but only damage its name!Mr. Mor Weizer (playtech’s CEO), don’t you care about the damage that will happen to the online gaming industry because of a crook in your company?
b.t.w I know about the rule of CAP forum that does not allow calling names to other people, in my case calling this person a “crook” is not a violation of the rule because I heard it from his own mouth! (one time when the crook was in a good mood he laughed and said that he is a crook! and seemed like he is very proud of himself for this too)
thanks to all the people that want to see the game! but I will not make it (maybe in the future)
people that ask me who is the crook: sorry, but I’m not going to tell this, you can call playtech and ask I think that everybody knows it there
I really don’t need any proof to know for every 1 good playtech there is 15 bad ones out there.You got us all interested so why not just spill the beans lol
@casinobonusguy 214992 wrote:
I really don’t need any proof to know for every 1 good playtech there is 15 bad ones out there.You got us all interested so why not just spill the beans lol
Judy you always amaze me with your directness!!! hahahha you rock!!
