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ecogra does not just over see player complaints now do they? greek39
greek39 wrote:ecogra does not just over see player complaints now do they? greek39From eCOGRA’s home page:
For sites bearing the eCOGRA seal, we have ensured that our requirements are independently and consistently checked and rechecked by a globally recognized international accounting firm. And, in the unlikely event a problem develops while playing at an approved site, eCOGRA has developed a first class, fast, free player dispute mediation service. Additionally, we offer you a Fair Gaming Advocate, accessible on the eCOGRA site.
Your Advocate is available to represent you as a player, designed to be your voice and assure your questions, concerns and queries receive attention in a prompt, professional manner.
Further more I have been informed that they have yet to receive one complaint from a player concerning the reasons why we have rogued en-masse 888.
I am out of this thread. I have more important things to than go round in circles.
I will throw in my complaint this week and see how they handle it. greek39
Dominique wrote:Because it’s not a player complaint.Let me get this right, your saying if a player complained about the 888 issues to eCogra, that eCogra would do something about it, is that what your saying?
Let us not forget that the 888 issues far out reaches players concerns and webmaster issues.
Correct me if I’m wrong here, but main stream internet user get bombarded by the 888 crap 24/7. If it’s not from redirected BH affiliates, it comes directly from 888 or its subsidiaries posting crap to blogs or doing their own BH SEO.
I’m growing a little tired of hearing the “it’s not a player complaint” crap.
Besides using this dogmatic retort every time sounds daft. Especially when its stacked up against eCogra’s stand on the Jackpot Factory issue.
I’ve not disputed what JF did was wrong, it was, it is and they should be held responsible for their actions.
Can you honestly say with all sincerity and conviction that what eCogra has not done in regards to 888 when transposed to the action swiftly taken on Jackpot Factory, is fair, honourable, just?
In the same token as eCogra took action on JF so it should also hold 888 to its infractions (and there are many as you well know) of eCogra’s eGAP policies.
Any other stance on eCogra’s part in direct address of 888 and it’s eGAP policy infringements speaks volumes, what those volumes shout should be as clear as the nose on ones face. That is, if one is being true to ones own integrity, that is!
I agree for now more pressing issues have just come in.
Webzcas wrote:I am out of this thread. I have more important things to than go round in circles.What? Go gloat to the factions that pat your back ( :kissass: ) and tell you your a good bloke in thank you posts. Yes, you probably do have self important things to take care of.
Webzcas wrote:From eCOGRA’s home page:For sites bearing the eCOGRA seal, we have ensured that our requirements are independently and consistently checked and rechecked by a globally recognized international accounting firm. And, in the unlikely event a problem develops while playing at an approved site, eCOGRA has developed a first class, fast, free player dispute mediation service. Additionally, we offer you a Fair Gaming Advocate, accessible on the eCOGRA site.
Your Advocate is available to represent you as a player, designed to be your voice and assure your questions, concerns and queries receive attention in a prompt, professional manner.
What you failed to give; like most caught in your own self indulgent doctrine, is the true facts.
The statement above from eCogra’s home page, is then withdrawn at the bottom of their sealed casino page:
eCogra wrote:http://www.ecogra.com/approved.aspx?OP=PWhile eCOGRA does its utmost to ensure compliance with its principles, it cannot offer 100% assurance that the operation of any games at any given site is at all times in accordance with the eCOGRA requirements. Therefore eCOGRA cannot assume responsibility for the consequences resulting from the use of any Internet gaming site bearing the eCOGRA Play It Safe seal. eCOGRA is not liable to any person or group of persons, firm, company or entity for losses of any description that a user of an accredited site may suffer. Accredited sites are subject to regular monitoring of their operation.
Obviously your another one blinded to eCogra’s labyrinth of statement retractions.
At the top of the page of reputable portals it eCogra states this:
eCogra wrote:http://www.ecogra.com/reputable_portals.aspx?OP=P
In seeking as wide a protection for the player as possible, eCOGRA has identified a number of portals where we are confident that players can benefit from the integrity and quality of the content, and the commitment to fair play and customer service of the portalmaster.While this list is not exhaustive, it is a good start for players seeking independent forum interaction, solid information and balanced online casino references:
(list of portals follows.)
Yes you guessed it, in typical eCogra retraction style this is posted at the foot of the reputable portal page.
eCogra wrote:eCOGRA has no control over, nor is it responsible for, the content of portals or of the sites represented on any portal. eCOGRA gives no assurance regarding sites represented on any portal, except for sites which have eCOGRA accreditation. Portals are not subject to eCOGRA accreditation nor are they within the scope of eGAP.Accordingly, no representation or warranty can be given regarding portals or sites represented on any portal. eCOGRA expressly disclaims responsibility to any person, corporation or other legal entity for any consequences, including (but not limited to) losses of any description, resulting from the use of any portal or any gaming site accessed via, or listed on, a portal listed below.
By all means it’s your right to post your opinions, I actually welcome them. However don’t make the mistake of getting your opinions mixed up with facts. And please don’t try to patronise me into an area where your attempting to make me look foolish.
For someone who seems apt on the eCogra subject, it certainly seems from here that you really need to get with the program.
Wager lets keep things civil and on topic please. CAP is not tolerant of flaming other members no matter how passionately you may feel about an issue. Please do not derail an otherwise valuable thread of discussions. You are getting increasingly shrill and its not helpful to Jackpot Factory.
My apologies Professor.
Though it’s no justification, I took “I have more important things to than go round in circles.” as a backhanded slap. Which I unfortunately bit on.
I’ll make a conscious effort not to take a derogative line.
Cheers
Thanks
Though, I’m done for today. Tried to grab some sleep but couldn’t, so firing up Oblivion, I’ll take my frustrations out on some demonic orcs and such…
Cheers
Wager2winUK wrote:Let me get this right, your saying if a player complained about the 888 issues to eCogra, that eCogra would do something about it, is that what your saying?That might not be exactly what he meant, but that is exactly how it read.
I agree with professor above and apologize for helping derail the topic. Lets not get any further derailed here. If we need to lets start another thread regarding 888 and ecogra and keep this one concentrating on jackpot factory.
Best of luck to Jackpot Factory, I think you are going to need it.
axl wrote:If we need to lets start another thread regarding 888 and ecogra and keep this one concentrating on jackpot factory.IMO this is one of those hard threads to determine. I agree it’s about Jackpot Factory foremost, though, I also believe that eCogra and 888 are intertwined.
It’s a hard call at best.
Though given that it’s starting to become more about eCogra/888 than Jackpot Factory, In maybe best to move it to its own thread. Least this allows a continued continuity.
Is it possible to move some of these threads Professor, and start a new thread under this exact topic?
Cheers
