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June 20, 2006 at 11:42 pm #696211AnonymousInactiveDominique wrote:Well, this http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/look-at-the-latest-888-action.12571.html? definitely has brought me a step closer to losing faith.
However, it’s still the best attempt out there to regulate things in a way that helps players, and unless someone shows me something better to support, I will continue to support eCOGRA. & I would agree, because I understand, but I don’t have the faith you do.
Let’s have it right. A truly independant 3rd party cannot rightfully assure anyone the games are fair anymore than you or I can.
June 20, 2006 at 11:49 pm #696213AnonymousInactivejoeyl wrote:Let’s have it right. A truly independant 3rd party cannot rightfully assure anyone the games are fair anymore than you or I can.That’s a pretty fair point you raise joeyl.
I guess to assure anyone of game fairness a certain level of involvement directly or indirectly must prevail.
Some good food for thought. thank you.
June 21, 2006 at 1:00 am #696221AnonymousInactiveWhat JPF may have done, may not have been correct and ethical, and you can’t deny what the majority of players think.
Why does ecogra stand up and take notice when JPF gets complaints from players, but does’nt do the same when 888.com has been receiving complaints from players on bigger and longer outstanding issues.
Is ecogra showing that it perhaps has no muscle against someone the size of 888.com and they can’t justify time spent on going after what could be a lost cause?
June 22, 2006 at 1:20 pm #696371AnonymousInactiveHi there,
Regarding the donation issue, David Brickman, JF Spokesperson updated me as follows:
If people ask you about donations, please tell them we will not do what essentially would be a knee jerk reaction. Our first and foremost priority is to get to the bottom of the seo issues. A donation won’t change the content and won’t make management changes.
We know how important it is to fix the damage by making a sincere and generous gesture and I really appreciate that you are telling JF to do this for their own good! They will be dealing with this, but it will take time and preferably be done in a manner that is carefully considered.
Best regards,
LloydJune 22, 2006 at 3:55 pm #696387AnonymousInactiveA donation to gamblers anonymus or similair would be an excellent gesture, as would a change in management.
June 22, 2006 at 4:54 pm #696397AnonymousInactiveI would rather see a management change than a donation. As pointed out, it would be knee-jerk; what exactly is that going to accomplish?
The gesture of goodwill IMO was taking immediate actions to remove the offending materials.
June 22, 2006 at 5:17 pm #696401AnonymousInactiveI won’t say were I got this from but I have many more. It appears ecogra supports casino portals as well. A vested interest in webmasters or vice versa.
com Proudly listed (bottom first page) as recognized by eCOGRA.org as a reputable casino portal ” known to have a history of honest y, professional ism and player-sensitive conduct ” features secure
Lloyd I appreciate all your efforts!! greek39
June 22, 2006 at 5:34 pm #696407AnonymousInactivegreek39 wrote:I won’t say were I got this from but I have many more. It appears ecogra supports casino portals as well. A vested interest in webmasters or vice versa.Greek one of my sites is actually listed on the eCOGRA Reputable Portal Page. There are also other member’s of CAP who have their sites listed there.
So, what exactly are you trying to infer?
June 22, 2006 at 5:41 pm #696408AnonymousInactiveI not did not realize this part of ecogra mission statement. Not trying to infer anything just pointing it out.greek39
June 22, 2006 at 5:41 pm #696409AnonymousInactiveThats what I want to know.
I am proud to be listed there.
June 22, 2006 at 5:55 pm #696410AnonymousInactiveIn my honest opinion I think ecogra has some credibility issues. Some which have been already posted. I do find this interesting and explains volumes of information to me anyway. Like I said in another post the way you view ecogra today will change in a years time.
greek39
June 22, 2006 at 5:59 pm #696411AnonymousInactivegreek39 wrote:In my honest opinion I think ecogra has some credibility issues. Some which have been already posted. I do find this interesting and explains volumes of information to me anyway. Like I said in another post the way you view ecogra today will change in a years time.greek39
I completely disagree. Whilst eCOGRA looks after the players interests at the casinos which are sealed, then they will have my continued support.
Why don’t you actually contact them and find out exactly what they do.
BTW as you know both Dominque and I have 888 rogued and have been very outspoken about said roguing. Yet we are listed on eCOGRA’s reputable portal page. No hidden agenda at all. If there was, I doubt we would still be there.
June 22, 2006 at 6:02 pm #696412AnonymousInactiveWebzcas wrote:BTW as you know both Dominque and I have 888 rogued and have been very outspoken about said roguing. Yet we are listed on eCOGRA’s reputable portal page. No hidden agenda at all. If there was, I doubt we would still be there.I am a very major pain in 888’s butt.
My blacklisting them is all over google, including their stock page.
I hardly think they love me .
I have no idea what you are trying to imply here, but you are making no sense at all.
June 22, 2006 at 6:07 pm #696413AnonymousInactiveI already know everything there is to know about ecogra. This was the same sort of attitude I received when I began work on 888. I am not accusing Dom or yourself of anything.
A simple fact remains ecogra has takin no action against 888 and I would like to find out why? greek39
June 22, 2006 at 6:12 pm #696414AnonymousInactiveBecause it’s not a player complaint.
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