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Great article over at Gambling911.com
Quote:Approximately 800 web pages deemed as “unsuitable for public consumption” have showed up as part of an Australian “blacklist” campaign. Shockingly, a number of these pages are related to online gambling.The Australian Communications and Media Authority submits this “blacklist” to internet service providers and content filtering companies so they can update their list of banned URLs.
About three months ago service providers received a list from ACMA containing illegal gambling pages they should block.
“We asked ACMA what was going on and were told that these were illegal gambling websites that had been identified by the federal Government as inappropriate,” an industry source said
Read complete article here:
http://www.gambling911.com/online-gambling-022508.htmlWhats your thoughts on the above. Obviously the Australia market represents a huge number of players (especially poker). I know its technically “illegal” to gamble online down under, but this is the first time that they were looking at actively blocking access to sites…
I hate to say it but i think this is full of it…
I *think* its illegal for ISPs to block internet sites here…
They are talking about a national filter plan, but to be honest, I think the people are going to be so angry at it that it will get thrown out… and I reckon people would be so angry that there would be an assassination attempt on the prime minister for it…
There are groups already on facebook for people who are against it and they have tens/hundreds of thousands of members….
I think he has more to worry about than what websites people are looking at… He just cut something like 400 million or 400 billion worth of funding to public schools… and this is after promising that every child in every school will get their own personal laptop computer…
I think he will have so much on his plate to worry about that this will be chucked out….
Id also like to just throw in that I dont think he will be in power for more than 1 term… heres hoping.
Also, from what I have seen, it is illegal for a company to take an online gaming bet from an Aussie, not for Aussies to actually place the bet…
However, i believe its actually legal for sportsbetting here… (centrebet could probably confirm this).No one individual player has ever been prosecuted for online betting here.
Please someone correct me if i’m wrong.
Edit: here is the Act for anyone who wants to read…
http://www.comlaw.gov.au/comlaw/legislation/actcompilation1.nsf/0/C2C59205B0A9D908CA2573D2001C2461/$file/InteractGamb2001WD02.pdfOK sorry for spamming….
Basically, the IGA (Interactive Gambling Act 2001) specifies that it is illegal to advertise in a way that someone physically in Australia can make a bet…but it doesn’t actually specify that its illegal for an Australian to make the bet, so I’m assuming this is why complaints are able to be made….and why there are a few companies based in Oz that do not allow Aussies to play…
a quicky from the site:
The Interactive Gambling Act 2001 (the IGA) makes it an offence to provide, or advertise, certain interactive gambling services. Information about the IGA, as well as information about the Commonwealth Government’s interactive gambling policy, is available from the Department of Communications, Information Technology and the Arts.
I’d be interested to hear some other POVs…
This is definitely a good topic…
I’m also starting to like you Renee
:inlove:keep us updated from down-under!
@Renee 156133 wrote:
However, i believe its actually legal for sportsbetting here…
Sporting betting is fine – as long as they do not allow “in-play” betting on the game.
So Australians can bet on Sports and even use betting exchanges like Betfair, but they are not allowed to use the “in-play” function. Betfair spent quite a bit of effort creating a special “australian wallet” to restrict functions away from these users.
It seems that the definition was designed to restrict poker and casino games and that the key part is “makes it an offence to provide, or advertise, certain interactive gambling services” …
This interactive has been specfied some where else to mean short term repetitive betting (like slots or blackjack, or betting on who wins the next point in a tennis match).
So places like Centrebet and Canbet can legally operate a SportsBetting, Casino and Poker site in Australia – but are only allowed to offer the sportsbetting to Australian citizens ..
(at least that’s the way that I’ve been told to market it … by both organizations)
Hope that helps.
:hattip:@TheGooner 156146 wrote:
Sporting betting is fine – as long as they do not allow “in-play” betting on the game.
So Australians can bet on Sports and even use betting exchanges like Betfair, but they are not allowed to use the “in-play” function. Betfair spent quite a bit of effort creating a special “australian wallet” to restrict functions away from these users.
It seems that the definition was designed to restrict poker and casino games and that the key part is “makes it an offence to provide, or advertise, certain interactive gambling services” …
This interactive has been specfied some where else to mean short term repetitive betting (like slots or blackjack, or betting on who wins the next point in a tennis match).
So places like Centrebet and Canbet can legally operate a SportsBetting, Casino and Poker site in Australia – but are only allowed to offer the sportsbetting to Australian citizens ..
(at least that’s the way that I’ve been told to market it … by both organizations)
Hope that helps.
:hattip:Ah that would be in the Internet Broadcasting Act… or something like that. I was looking for that one before …
Thanks for filling in the gapsSo if I’m correct, the laws still don’t say that its illegal to play, just to provide or advertise right?
TheGooner;156146 wrote:Sporting betting is fine – as long as they do not allow “in-play” betting on the game.So Australians can bet on Sports and even use betting exchanges like Betfair, but they are not allowed to use the “in-play” function. Betfair spent quite a bit of effort creating a special “australian wallet” to restrict functions away from these users.
It seems that the definition was designed to restrict poker and casino games and that the key part is “makes it an offence to provide, or advertise, certain interactive gambling services” …
This interactive has been specfied some where else to mean short term repetitive betting (like slots or blackjack, or betting on who wins the next point in a tennis match).
So places like Centrebet and Canbet can legally operate a SportsBetting, Casino and Poker site in Australia – but are only allowed to offer the sportsbetting to Australian citizens ..
(at least that’s the way that I’ve been told to market it … by both organizations)
Hope that helps.
:hattip:100% right.
We can offer Sportsbetting to players in Aus, but we are not allowed to advertise. As far as I understand the “In-Play” betting, players can bet “In-Play”, but they have to place the bets over the phone, and not on the Net.
Also, we are not allowed to offer ANY Poker or Casino play to player physically present in Australia.
@CK – Schalk 156158 wrote:
100% right.
We can offer Sportsbetting to players in Aus, but we are not allowed to advertise. As far as I understand the “In-Play” betting, players can bet “In-Play”, but they have to place the bets over the phone, and not on the Net.
Also, we are not allowed to offer ANY Poker or Casino play to player physically present in Australia.
Does that have anything to do with where the servers are located?
I actually read through most of that Act and it said something in the lines of if the interactive games are hosted on a server outside of the country that there are procedures to go through if a complaint is made or something…but the government had to get permission to go through with the prosecution or something like that…And let’s not forget about soon being able to bet via the TV thanks to Tabcorp. At least I think it’s them. There was an announcement a few weeks back and to me it just smacked of political lobbying by certain parts of the gambling industry to try and keep their market share.
Renee, congratulations on reading the entire Act. I tried and quickly remembered why I didn’t enjoy the law subjects at uni. Far too much flicking around to find definitions.
Hi everyone,
Lasseters Corporation, which is fully licensed by [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Northern Territory Racing, Gaming and Licensing, is interesting as it is an Australian company that offers both a casino and a sportsbook. [/FONT]
The casino won’t accept players who are physically in Australia, but they don’t have that stipulation for the sportsbook.
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