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Guys we have seen a HUGE increase in black hatters attempting to sign up at CAP. Invariably they all use the same foreign email accounts and one is using an automated script to attempt to sign up several times daily.
As if we didnt have enough problems already I am now getting sign up attempts by one of the dirtiest and sickest black hatters out there…
Jerone Putermans.
This shit weasel has been a rogue for YEARS now, even before it was a common practice. He resides in the Netherlands but operates via Israel, Belarus and VanCouver. He conducts MAJOR spam campaigns (20 million recipients), hacks casino databases and sells the data, performs DDOS attacks (he has hit us before and Marc Lesnicks sites also) and was the person behind 1CNP and other rogue casinos. This guys is a complete slime ball. If he is trying to register here he wants something bad. I am assuming he is the other huge BH affiliate at CPays and the pressure we are putting on them is being passed along to him.
So we are once again making a difference. :colgate:
Awesome! I fully expect, with my last email, that I will be a target very soon. I’m quite sick of their domination of the SERPS with crap. CPays is paying them for sure and I don’t think they are going to stop anytime soon unless we really affect their bottom line.
Puterman – thats who tried to bring my server down a couple years ago. Deaning’s too.
I get tons of spammy signups at my forum also, I have to delete them daily.
Oh boy.. I remember my tangle with him vividly.
peralis wrote:Oh boy.. I remember my tangle with him vividly.Sounds ominous. I hope I don’t have to deal with this individual directly. What did he do??
does he have anything to do with the polish weasels spamming g99gle for cpays as well?
He used to run a lot of his shit through Belarus. I wouldnt be surprised if he isnt channeling through Poland or its possible the polish weasels are associates of his. Either way I fairly certain he is the other main rogue at Cpays along with Z….
Lou–
I remember the whole mess with Jerone, well (ugly, nasty stuff). I seem to recall something about Interpol going after him–do you know if this ever occurred or if it was just rumour?
who is the other guy anyway…?
So – What do we do about this? CPays appears to be working with BH’ers and probably this guy and his team – exclusively. Ora no longer responds to any of the issues and just hopes it will go away.
Like I mentioned in their thread… I am quite certain that I can use their programs against them and fill the SERPS with information on how CPays casinos are spamming bastards and not to be trusted… But – is that the right thing to do? Should we ‘fight fire with fire’ or just wait and hope that we all get a portion of our income back?
I’d love to hear everyone’s opinions on that.
Kw CasinoPays has been responsive on virtually everything except for the Spam. They have made SOME positive moves, not many, but a few. I suspect the Spam issues come back to Jerone and that’s why they are holding their tongues when it comes to him.
From a practical standpoint there isnt much we can do other then harrass CasinoPays like we have been doing and push them to reign in as much of the BH crap as possible. At the end of the day though its going to be VERY difficult to get them to drop Jerone or Ziv due to the business they bring to the table.
While I would LOVE to fight fire with fire the fact is both Ziv and Jerone can do far more damage to you or I then we could do to them. They have the resources and capabilites to make things VERY unpleasant and have no reservations about doing so. Ziv would sue you on top of it to add insult to injury. I couldnt recommend that anyone go after them directly.
Now if anyone did chose to do so they would have my support, but like I said I couldnt recommend that to anyone.
Professor wrote:From a practical standpoint there isnt much we can do other then harrass CasinoPays like we have been doing and push them to reign in as much of the BH crap as possible. At the end of the day though its going to be VERY difficult to get them to drop Jerone or Ziv due to the business they bring to the table.Jerone or Ziv – Whomever is responsable for the latest spamming – is taking money out of everyone’s pocket. He HAS to have written a very powerful content generator that additionally allows him to create subdomains on the fly. Whatever he has written generates content so fast that if he continues unabated, we will all be completely out of the SERPS in no time. It IS that serious, IMO. I don’t care if you have a PR7 site and complete ‘authority site’ recognition. Whatever they/he is doing is working and displacing sites that were/are considered authority sites.
It’s getting out of hand – so what can we do? I understand that CPays wants them around. I understand that the next program will too because all they have to say is ‘We brought Casino Partners 10,000 new Casino Players’ or ‘We brought CPays 200,000 new players’ and DONE.
Since that is, most assuredly, the case… We only have the choice to do something direct. I don’t know what that is – but something has to happen, otherwise we are all here just to create content for THEM.
its not that bad yet – even if those guys have been quite active in the seo field, i can tell g99gle is just as actively fighting them. they are up and down in the SERP’s, you see them and then they are off for some time
Good point Professor, ive hinted on that before – they can do MUCH more damage to you then you could possibly to them. That is not chickening out, that is assesing the situation from a real and practical point of view -it happened to me before so i know what im talking about here.
The one and only way to get rid of such pains in the ass is somehow manage to convince their employers, be it Cpays or Cpartners or whowever, that they should drop those ugly fleas. But given their productivity and the hundreds, if not thousands, of players provided by them on a monthly basis id say this is highly unlikely to happen.
As a matter of fact i can now think of at least one or two affiliate managers approaching me or my polish friends to inquire about the polish weasels ive mentioned before – only on the basis that im polish. id say this speaks for itself. id even go further and say that IMHO the aff managers are quite happy with such affiliates and are giving them free hand – if you take out the ethics, in the end they are hooked up with lots of players which means tons of money, doesnt it?
