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June 5, 2012 at 2:05 pm #825126AnonymousInactive
The -£2000 sure sounds like it
If that is how the account is shaping up then you should stop promoting them, but before you do that, contact the affiliate program and verify how they figure the commission – and tell them your problem – they may (probably) have a solution for you!
June 5, 2012 at 5:36 pm #825135NonypepleMemberUse CPA plan when you promoting those no deposit bonuses.
June 5, 2012 at 5:53 pm #825137dantMember@CristianR25 240729 wrote:
Use CPA plan when you promoting those no deposit bonuses.
I have found it very difficult to find anybody who offers CPA deals to promote No Deposit offers!
Do you know who does offer CPA deals on No Deposit offers?
June 5, 2012 at 11:50 pm #825154AnonymousInactive@Freebetsuk 240731 wrote:
I have found it very difficult to find anybody who offers CPA deals to promote No Deposit offers!
Do you know who does offer CPA deals on No Deposit offers?
I’d have to agree with you about it being difficult to find a group which gives away “free” money to get money – I’d be wary if someone offered me that!
From my experience on NDB, I’ve seen the conversion rate fall between 3 and 11%. As an affiliate you have to drive volume on NDB, to make good money.
June 14, 2012 at 5:01 pm #825412dantMemberWell i would say my conversion rate is not getting above 3% on no deposit offers!
I would dream about getting 11% to be honest with you!
June 15, 2012 at 1:02 pm #825428AnonymousInactiveNo dposit offers are all about volume as stated above. one key is to always be sure you have a no negative carry oer with them as well, you can generate a few thousand players one month and stop promoting it the next, in hopes to win back all the cash that was out there.
in the end in revshare its a giant numbers game.
June 15, 2012 at 2:50 pm #825432tyaiMember@Maxus 237331 wrote:
not realy language, but more nationality, people act differently
i hope you’ll find it useful, it’s also about no-deposit bonus
Hi guys, Zuga here .
being that my interview was mentioned in this discussion I would like to clarify few more things in regards to NDBs.
As I said here, our conversions are anywhere between 3-18% on a no deposits, probably averaging around 10%.
Obviously the volume of your traffic is a very important factor, however there are other key factors that are affecting the registration to deposit ratio.
– Casino’s Platform : I find that some platforms are better converting than others. So say if its Rival powered casino you can expect very low conversions ( from my experience ). Again not all Rivals are as bad, mostly white labels ( half a time they have no idea what they are doing ).
– US or Non US traffic – it can make a huge difference for your conversions in combination with soft platform
– Your site’s ability to present such offers before your visitors and the way its being presented.
– Promotional terms for the specific ND offer, including restricting the players from certain countries from claiming it ( Speaking of Europe, most bonus abusers are coming from Poland, Russia, Greece, Hungary and some other East European countries ). Restricting some of these countries will definitely improve the conversions.
– co-branded landing pages
cheers
ZugaJune 17, 2012 at 9:03 pm #825489dantMemberI am very surprised that you are getting 3-18% conversions!
I am finding i am getting 0-1% conversions with my no deposit offers and i am thinking about stopping advertising them as they seem a complete waste of time!
June 20, 2012 at 12:50 pm #825595tyaiMemberIm talking here about casino NDBs only, and no free sports bets.
Also no dep exclusives are big part of our branding ( not the only one ofc ), and our focus is on converting such players in cooperation with the operators.
obviously the volume of our traffic is something that helps tremendously as in that quantity we find good quality.
We also have huge forum with over 50,000 members which obviously helps in presenting such offers to our membership ( among other things ).
Also there is a thing we call conversion lag where some of the referred players deposit the following month for the first time. But that still adds to your general conversion rate on a free chip.
June 20, 2012 at 1:47 pm #825596AnonymousInactiveThanks for the clarifications.
In reference to the free sports bets. I assume you are talking about bets that do not reguire up front deposits similar to the no deposit casino bonuses. In checking the specifics of the free sports bet offers, it seems many sites tell the the player to make a bet from their deposited funds and then get a ‘free bet’ credit.
Since there is no type of ‘standards board’ some players may feel duped when responding to free bets that actually require a deposit. At least the verbage of the ‘no deposit bonus’ clearly indicates the expectation.
June 20, 2012 at 5:23 pm #825613dantMemberI only know of one bookmaker who offer a no deposit free sports bet and that is Skybet!…..it is a £10 free bet and it does not require customers to deposit any money at all.
June 21, 2012 at 1:27 am #825625AnonymousInactive@Freebetsuk 241387 wrote:
I only know of one bookmaker who offer a no deposit free sports bet and that is Skybet!…..it is a £10 free bet and it does not require customers to deposit any money at all.
Yup, I’ve got that on my list list also. They call it both ‘free bet’ and ‘no deposit required’.
But then I’ve been more active in accumulating ‘no deposit casino bonuses’, so I assumed there might be more.
I came across a lot of other free sports bets, but they were not ‘no deposit sports bonuses’.
July 11, 2012 at 3:11 am #826238Mattayus09Membernodeposit is a good keyword but I don’t believe that you can’t get real money players on it.
July 11, 2012 at 4:31 pm #826257dantMemberWell i have been promoting “Free bets no deposit” offers for 6 months now and in my experience they are bad news!……people seldom deposit real money afterwards and all they do is drain your commissions!
July 12, 2012 at 8:00 am #826280Mattayus09MemberWHAT???? is this true? that offering free bets no deposit drains your commission??? :fencing:
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