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Remember to exercise your vote in 2004
… it’s for no reason that its a ” Free ” country … you are Free
to choose from pre-selected candidates … both have pledged
to bring back the draft after the election.
I’m not sure of the situation in the US, but in the UK i think the best thing to do is to spoil your vote.
We had the local and european parliament elections this week. With no candidates worth voting for and no option for none of the above ,i think a spoilt vote is better than not bothering. In the UK spoilt votes are counted and recorded. At least it sends the message that you can be bothered to vote for none of the candidtaes.
As for Bush and Kerry, i’m sure there both NWO fronts. Bush is not exactly poular in Europe to say the least. Unfortunately there is no real choice for our American friends as well as us….
Harvey
Harvey take a listen to these 6 mp3 by Myron Fagan, taped
in the 60s, he got a view from INSIDE the NWO power structure
and his prediction of the future is incredibly accurate …
you will understand the news more than you want to.
http://100777.com/node/view/13
:rolleyes:
PLEASE DO NOT FAIL TO VOTE!!!!!
If you don’t vote you DESERVE whatever the elected politicians do to you.
Aleph I really think its reprehensible to even suggest people not vote in an election that is this CRITICAL to not just the USA and our industry, but indeed the whole world.
:angry: :angry: :angry:
All conspiracies aside, people need to VOTE and need to understand that the President can and does set the tone of the country.
The Bush camp would LOVE for you to believe that it doesnt matter who gets elected, in fact THEY are working overtime to perpetuate this myth.
Dont fall for this bullshit!
With the greatest of respect proffessor i have to disagree with you.
What we all have in the democratic world is the illusion of democracy. It matters not who you vote for, because you will be getting much and the same whatever way. Yes there are differences between parties (i can only speak for the UK here), but essentially all parties will act in the same way in regard to important events in the world today.
Actually, i wasn’t saying don’t vote. I think the only way to register a protest is to go and vote for no party or person by spoiling your ballot. It’s not much, but its the best protest possible that i can see.
@Aleph
The first recording was little new but very interesting (and great to hear it all in the one place). I look forward to hearing the rest when i have time this week. I’ll PM you later.Harvey
Originally posted by Professor
PLEASE DO NOT FAIL TO VOTE!!!!!If you don’t vote you DESERVE whatever the elected politicians do to you.
Aleph I really think its reprehensible to even suggest people not vote in an election that is this CRITICAL to not just the USA and our industry, but indeed the whole world.
:angry: :angry: :angry:
All conspiracies aside, people need to VOTE and need to understand that the President can and does set the tone of the country.
The Bush camp would LOVE for you to believe that it doesnt matter who gets elected, in fact THEY are working overtime to perpetuate this myth.
Dont fall for this bullshit!
I agree with every single thing in this quote by the professor. A spoilt ballot isn’t a vote. Even if you feel that voting is only a matter of choosing the best turd in a pile of shit, you must excercise your responsibility as a member of a democratic nation to go out and vote!!!!!!!
I agree that things look pretty grim and scarey with the choices in America, but voting is a responsibility.
I suppose you have a point there Fergie. Although i still contend that it makes no major difference, i suppose voting on the minor differences applicable to you personally is justified. I 100% agree that those who cant be bothered to go and vote (in whatever way) deserve all they get.
I bumped into a UK MP [margaret becket] in my local homebase (diy store) today. I wish i gave her a piece of my mind now.
Harvey
I actually agree basically with everyone.
Bush and Kerry are two peas in a pod in many ways.
However, if you are an American citizen and you wish to continue on in your profession as advertiser, you better vote and you better vote for Kerry.
If the vote favors Bush we can all pack in.
I think we’re all in agreement about the candidates and that voting is unlikely to turn events around.
That being said, the reason I think voting is imporant here is that a good turnout indicates that people are beginning to wake up and take notice. U.S.A. has a notoriously low voter turn-out.
A good turnout with real or spoiled ballots would show the same cognition.
I lived in the U.S. for some time – in Oklahoma when the trade centers were attacked – and the contrast between political awareness between down there and up here in Canada is stark. There is no comparison. I seldom ran into anyone who knew what was going on, or even gave a rats ass! (I don’t mean they didn’t agree with me – I hadn’t formed much of an opinion at all back then – I mean people really didn’t think about politics much).
The general ignorance as well as some dogmatic attitudes and patriotism “issues” are what is making all this NWO scheme glide smoothly and unemcumbered into the future.
So, IMO, if there is a good voter turn out, it’s a sign that U.S. citizens are sloughing off their “patriotic” fog and seeing things as they actually are, not as they are told they are.
Since it’s very unlikely that Ralph Nader is going to win the next election, the only thing that is going to stop the Illuminati, IMHO, are huge grassroot movements.
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P.S.
I think that Kerry is less dangerous than Bush, regardless of his associations and platform, simply because (I don’t think) he isn’t ensconsed with Bush Sr. cronies, Rumfeld et al. If Bush is re-elected there won’t be a hope in hell of taming the beast.This is why I hate to think that people will cast spoiled ballots – the kind of people who would do that are liberals, not republicans. A spoiled ballot = a vote for Bush.
I think we’re all in agreement about the candidates and that voting is unlikely to turn events around
I beg to differ.
Where this relates specifically to the strongarm tactics and political shenanigans that affect us as United States based advertisers, the Bush regime is our undoing, and a change to someone who will have to run for reelection is absolutely crucial.
I am a died in the wool republican saying this.
We absolutely definitely have to have a new president who will have to run for reelection.
The rest of it is personal political opinion, I am merely talking about the survival of this industry and our livelihood.
I am not even going to get into any of the issues, most of which are huge this election.
As of this year I am non partisan, since I do not see anyone I would like to see in office in general.
In specific however, as it relates to us, I am very familiar with all the details pertaining to the lobbying this industry does and all other political involvement.
I can not be emphatic enough here – we MUST have a president who will have to run for reelection! That leaves only Kerry!
Whoops, Dom, I wasn’t refering to turning around the situation with online gambling when I was referring the “the events”. I’m referring to events which have global ramifications.
It was actually an elaboration of something you said; “Bush and Kerry are two peas in a pod in many ways.”
Point taken.
I guess I am strongly driven to try to communicate to my fellow affiliates how seriously this election will affect us here in the US and by extention the industry, since most players are still US citizens.
I am trying not to adress global events here as they will raise many heated opinons and I am trying to just let everyone focus on our industry. Probably I should start a new thread about that elsewhere – this is the free for all section.
My viewpoint overall is to STOP the draft … they are not even
talking about it in the media yet behind the scenes the seeds
are being layed to draft men and women between 18 and 26
I believe that being fooled by your leaders is one thing
but being FORCED to possibly DIE or get MAMED for life or have
a BAD reaction to the vaccines they expose you too is even
more reprehensible … Professor I hope your daughters are
not of draft age … I have close relatives that will be affected
by a draft and that is the last thing I want to see irregardless of
who is ” president “.
:rolleyes:
Professor I hope your daughters are
not of draft age …
Three of them are.
I served in the US Army and have no problem with defending our country.
The point of this election is I want there to be a country LEFT to defend. Or one worth defending.
Not one that is bankrupt and so far in debt my daugthers will pay much higher taxes for the remainder of their lives for much less services then we have now.
Not a country that the rest of the civilized world despises so much it inspires their sons and daughters to take up arms against us.
Not a country where civil liberties have been so far removed they have no freedom of speach, no protection of privacy and no rights left to protect.
There are other issues besides the draft.
Having a President who actually went to war and SAW COMBAT is far superior to having a coward who hid in the National Guard to avoid Viet Nam and even then went AWOL. A man who knows war wont be so quick to send MY daughters off to die in a desert somewhere so that he and his Vice President can earn millions from big oil contractors.
I can go on, and probably, will but hopefully you start to examine this a little more closely then just one issue.
I vote we give the Saudi people democracy and if they vote in a bunch of loons instead of the Al Saad family then so be it.
