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August 14, 2005 at 9:39 am #589650AnonymousInactive
I read this post on another board:
“All my affiliates give you stats for traffic blah blah and I average about 800+ hits so far for each affiliate from banners text adds etc. So I kept checking up and noticing I was getting know signups or nothing with party poker(I might add they do not have any tracker stats also)
So I decided to setup my own tracker on my account and well I was right I was getting tons of hits to them. So I had my brother signup with them because he likes to play poker and deposit money which means I should have been paid 100 dollars. Well guess what 3 days after the fact I still had no sign ups show up on my account.
So I contacted party poker and told them I set up my own tracker for stats and I also had someone sign up gave them the account name the date they signed up and amount they deposited. Well party poker responds by saying sorry the user didn’t use your bonus code mean while he hit on my banner with my id etc. And they said they wouldn’t pay me because my bonus code wasn’t used. So I responded and asked them how am I supposed to give a bonus code to each customer that clicks on my banner and downloads your software and there bonus code automatically is embedded in there software. No response and they don’t plan on paying me my money that’s due.”That made me check my own links to partypoker. And one thing I found was
that the landing page I’m linking to:
http://www.partypoker.com/download/index.htm?wm=2033831 only a few of the links carry my aff id. None in the menu bar/bottom of the page, or search box has the aff id.
Also, there’s a script that, what appears to be, calling a different aff id with a changeLink if my link has been indexed by SEs:
function changeLink(){
if (ref.indexOf(‘google.’)!=-1)value=2357235;
if (ref.indexOf(‘yahoo.’)!=-1)value=2565141;
if (ref.indexOf(‘msn.’)!=-1)value=2565142;
if (ref.indexOf(‘ask.’)!=-1)value=2571517;
if (ref.indexOf(‘altavista.’)!=-1)value=2571538;
[/CODE]
I’m not all that great with scripts, so maybe someone can clarify that one for me, but it sure doesn’t look right…So, anyone that has any feedback on PP.com at all? :omg:[CODE] function changeLink(){
if (ref.indexOf(‘google.’)!=-1)value=2357235;
if (ref.indexOf(‘yahoo.’)!=-1)value=2565141;
if (ref.indexOf(‘msn.’)!=-1)value=2565142;
if (ref.indexOf(‘ask.’)!=-1)value=2571517;
if (ref.indexOf(‘altavista.’)!=-1)value=2571538;
[/CODE]
I’m not all that great with scripts, so maybe someone can clarify that one for me, but it sure doesn’t look right…So, anyone that has any feedback on PP.com at all? :omg:
August 14, 2005 at 1:15 pm #670783AnonymousInactiveThe script checks to see if the visitor came via a search engine, if so they change the tracking code.
This means if someone ever manages to get an SE to rank a link with their affiliate code, it would be changed. It shouldn’t (edit, didn’t mean it would/should) effect links from an affiliate site.
August 14, 2005 at 1:49 pm #670785AnonymousInactivekamilla wrote:That made me check my own links to partypoker. And one thing I found was
that the landing page I’m linking to:
http://www.partypoker.com/download/index.htm?wm=2033831 only a few of the links carry my aff id. None in the menu bar/bottom of the page, or search box has the aff id.That is a great big no-no too!!!!
There are a whole lot of things that are not right with PP.
I hope a rep shows up sometime soon.
August 14, 2005 at 4:59 pm #670796AnonymousInactiveThanks for your reply.
That’s what I thought, but wasn’t sure. I mean, it’s a huge company and the code is right there for anyone to see… I just found it hard to belive that they would just steal their affiliates hard SEO work like that.I e-mailed them ofcourse, but so far no reply. But it’s the weekend so maybe I’ll hear back from them next week.
August 14, 2005 at 5:37 pm #670799AnonymousInactivePP uses cookies they don’t need to pass code via url.
Try it yourself, go via your link and click a few links then downoload. the download page source will have your code in it
August 14, 2005 at 5:54 pm #670800AnonymousInactivenote my correction above, i meant “That shouldn’t effect traffic referred from somewhere besides an SE.”
sorry
August 14, 2005 at 7:55 pm #670804AnonymousInactiveThanks Croup and Amcan – that clears this one up.
August 15, 2005 at 10:05 am #670827AnonymousInactivecroupier wrote:PP uses cookies they don’t need to pass code via url.Try it yourself, go via your link and click a few links then downoload. the download page source will have your code in itYes, as many programs does. But why then do some links carry the ref id and others don’t… ? It just doesn’t seem kosher to me…
But regardless – the fact that they so bluntly steal affiliates SEO work is bad enough :dafingers
August 15, 2005 at 10:57 am #670830AnonymousInactivethe fact that they so bluntly steal affiliates SEO work is bad enough
I don’t see how they’re doing this.
August 15, 2005 at 2:23 pm #670850AnonymousInactiveThere are several long posts in their forum. You need to read them if you promote PP.
Especially the statement about some other affiliate who is able to provide your fun players with first deposits being allowed to do so and make them his/hers.
August 16, 2005 at 10:17 am #670939AnonymousInactivecroupier wrote:I don’t see how they’re doing this.
If you can’t see this then it’s because you’re not reading. As I stated in previous post:One thing I found was that the landing page I’m linking to:
http://www.partypoker.com/download/index.htm?wm=2033831 There’s a script that, what appears to be, calling a different aff id with a changeLink if my link has been indexed by SEs: function changeLink(){
if (ref.indexOf(‘google.’)!=-1)value=2357235;
if (ref.indexOf(‘yahoo.’)!=-1)value=2565141;
if (ref.indexOf(‘msn.’)!=-1)value=2565142;
if (ref.indexOf(‘ask.’)!=-1)value=2571517;
if (ref.indexOf(‘altavista.’)!=-1)value=2571538;[/CODE]
That is stealing affiliates SEO work.[CODE] function changeLink(){
if (ref.indexOf(‘google.’)!=-1)value=2357235;
if (ref.indexOf(‘yahoo.’)!=-1)value=2565141;
if (ref.indexOf(‘msn.’)!=-1)value=2565142;
if (ref.indexOf(‘ask.’)!=-1)value=2571517;
if (ref.indexOf(‘altavista.’)!=-1)value=2571538;[/CODE]
That is stealing affiliates SEO work.August 16, 2005 at 1:32 pm #670953AnonymousInactiveI think kamilla has a valid concern here, and I hope someone from Party Poker will explain the “changeLink” script.
Can someone please copy this thread into the Party Poker area? Thanks.
August 16, 2005 at 2:09 pm #670963AnonymousInactiveI have moved this thread to their forum so they will be notified of its existance and can deal with the issues.
If they care to.
August 17, 2005 at 4:19 am #671034AnonymousInactiveThe only way this code would affect an affiliate is if they had managed to get a party poker URL, with there affiliate code into the search results.
even someone who ranked for “party poker” for clone site such as “playatpartypoker.com”, would have the traffic from the SE come to playatpartypoker.com.
so when the player lands at party poker the referrer is “playatpartypoker.com” not the SE.
i think that’s the point that Croup is making?
August 17, 2005 at 1:18 pm #671058AnonymousInactiveSo what you are saying is that if one sends traffic directly to party poker instead of going through another site, PP steals the traffic?
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