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Hi All,
Just wondering about how long it takes on average after pages are published for them to begin ranking for particular SEO phrases. For example, my site’s been active for a couple years now, but I just added a whole new section of content (20 pages worth) with a major focus on a particular keyword.
Assuming it was “built correctly” etc. about how long would it take for any of these new pages to begin ranking on Google?
Any feedback or personal experiences would be appreciated – thanks!
If google visits regularly or you’ve got ping set up, it could be in 20 minutes to be listed
I love it when I get done with a post and then see that google has seen it already
Reaching out to some SEO’s… Looking to get you some more detailed info.
In the mean time, those who may have some info/experiences to share, please do!
Thanks JillO – appreciate it
also got your newsletter – thanks for featuring my question
hope not only to get answers, but also to hopefully get ranked in the meantime
It can take anywhere from a few seconds to 2-3 weeks. It really depends on how google feels about your site and like rmeeuwsen said whether or not you’re pinging google to let them know about the new pages. If you’re not automatically set up for pinging, you can use a service like PingFarm | FREE Mass Ping Site To Ping Your URLs For More Backlinks You can add all the links and do a mass ping to several services. Do this only once.
@cardplayerlifestyle 236921 wrote:
Thanks JillO – appreciate it
also got your newsletter – thanks for featuring my question
hope not only to get answers, but also to hopefully get ranked in the meantime
Of course… I love getting feedback from beyond
I posted your question in our LinkedIn Group… Check out one of our responses below:
It depends upon the number factors such as – how many time that website gets clicks, how many ads you have added on each page, how much your content is “How to” oriented, what is its freshness of content etc. above all G+ is a must to get some added favor from G…
Of course, fonzi has provided some great feedback as well
Just wanted to share another comment from a self-proclaimed experienced SEO from a LinkedIn Group “Search Marketing Salon”:
Common make it hard for us!!! affiliates are cross platform duplicated content. Google deciphers out the original content sites and gives them weight. Google’s Job is to provide the best and most information to the person who types in the keyword. If you are using an affiliate site-pick a product category with the least competition but you can still make conversions. Change the innerlinking text (make sure its keyword relevant) from products to product pages and change the text just enough. If its a lead gen site with brand compliance rules your outta luck.Google will take its own sweet time with duplicated sites-Long Time!!!
so I got another reply from someone that it’s actually very likely that one starts “ranking” immediately, but that there’s a difference between ranking and ranking well…
apparently ranking well has more to do with the number of people who link to your content rather than how good the content might be on its own
oh well
just seems like no matter how much effort “little sites like mine” put in, there’s no way to ever break the glass ceiling…and the effort is consistent, thorough, educated, high-quality, original content effort we’re talking about here…
back to the drawing board…
and another thing…
getting plagiarized seems to help the plagiarizers, who happen to be from big organizations, more than the little guys who work hard to create the content too
Look at this “great” article that CAP published less than a week ago that was allegedly “written” by Cristina from Fortune affiliates: When Will Online Poker Be Legal?
Now take a look at the ORIGINAL article, which was written by me, back in December and published in one of the leading iGaming affiliate magazines in the industry: iGB Affiliate 30 Dec/Jan 2011/2012
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the blatant copying of my headlines, phraseology, and opinions. THEY EVEN COPIED A MISTAKE I ACCIDENTALLY MADE! (MGM has nothing to do with Trump)
I guess THAT’s the way to succeed, eh?
Where’s CAP’s apology?
@cardplayerlifestyle 236964 wrote:
and another thing…
getting plagiarized seems to help the plagiarizers, who happen to be from big organizations, more than the little guys who work hard to create the content too
Look at this “great” article that CAP published less than a week ago that was allegedly “written” by Cristina from Fortune affiliates: When Will Online Poker Be Legal?
Now take a look at the ORIGINAL article, which was written by me, back in December and published in one of the leading iGaming affiliate magazines in the industry: iGB Affiliate 30 Dec/Jan 2011/2012
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the blatant copying of my headlines, phraseology, and opinions. THEY EVEN COPIED A MISTAKE I ACCIDENTALLY MADE! (MGM has nothing to do with Trump)
I guess THAT’s the way to succeed, eh?
Where’s CAP’s apology?
cardplayer – thanks very much for bringing this to our attention, and I do apologize for the mistake on our part here. I’ve asked our editorial team to remove the article immediately.
I want to assure you that we take plagiarism very seriously, and we do check the articles written for us to ensure that they are original and unique, though this one may not have detected because it was published in an offline magazine which shows online as a PDF.
I’ll be getting with the appropriate parties here to prevent this from ever happening again in the future.
Thanks again for pointing this out.
Hey cardplayerlifestyle:
As I mentioned, I took your question and forum comments to the LinkedIn world to try to get some feedback from SEO’s in the online marketing world. This has certainly stirred up some great conversation. Just wanted to share a response in particular that you may be interested in… Hopefully this info is helping in some capacity:
If it’s a question about how long it takes to get PageRank, there’s no good answear to that, most of all because you might not get any (0), and it therefore will look like you haven’t got any yet. A good question would rather be “How do I get pagerank more than 0?”. PR points is one of the more obsqure SEO factors, both because it’s hard to tell exactly what makes you climb the steps, and how long it will take to get those steps registered and visible. Google does not update PR very often, so even if you’ve done absolutely everything right, it still can take months to get it confirmed by a raised PR value. Also, remember each page on your website might carry a different PR.
Yes, it’s true that PR is real value, confirmed by the fact that links from a site with high PR is far better more weighty than a link from a low PR site. Still I wouldn’t care too much about the PageRank factor, as this doesn’t necessarily decide who goes first in SERP. We’ve got a several year old affiliate site (Jackpot 6000 spilleautomat) that carries a PR2 for the front page, and PR1 for the most visited page (/jackpot-60000.php). We have been ruling the first place in Norwegian SERP for a long, long time now for the search term “jackpot 6000”, and that obviously isn’t a result of our PR points.
I think the most important factor here is that the domain name equals the search term, along with the page optimized for the same search term. Still we got pretty good positions for numerous other search terms, matching the search terms of each single page, some of them with PR0 or PR n/a.
I would not care to much for PR, but concentrate on the even more obsqure factor TrustRank, which officially are a an important factor, but a hidden factor. The TR builds from content quality, sitewide quality, internal linking strategies, domain and page age, and last but not least least external links.
Google says “content is king”, which I agree upon, but for affiliates it’s often hard to produce unique content, as there are a great number of sites trying to rank for the same search terms. I therefore would recommend focusing most of all on external quality links, which has shown to be more important than content. Why does get.adobe.com/reader/ rank #1 for the search term “click here”? Not because the content is optimized for this search term, not at all, but because there are a great number of external links with this text in the anchor text.
Last, when working affiliate sites where it’s difficult to get Google to pinpoint your content as really unique, I would also focus on the long tail. Like, when promoting slot machines, don’t only optimize for the exact search term “slot machines”, you’ll only drown in the heavy competition. Optimize for long tail search terms such as “play free slot machines”, “online slot machines”, “play casino slots” and so on. As you grow traffic and links with longtail search terms, it will also help build up the main search terms over time.
Use https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal to check out which words people search for in combination with your main search terms.
Thanks JillO for helping to promote this discussion on LinkedIn and for sharing this excellent response. I’m so happy I chose to post my question here on CAP – getting some fantastic feedback which is helping me “emotionally” now and will hopefully also help with concrete improvements in the future…
@cardplayerlifestyle 236986 wrote:
Thanks JillO for helping to promote this discussion on LinkedIn and for sharing this excellent response. I’m so happy I chose to post my question here on CAP – getting some fantastic feedback which is helping me “emotionally” now and will hopefully also help with concrete improvements in the future…
So happy we can help! That’s what we’re here for
Hoping to “see” you around the forums more often. And… with anymore feedback I receive from our social media channels, I’ll be happy to share!Yes, I’m happy too.
Happy to see some really knowledgeable unbiased tips all in one spot.I think the terms Trust Rank and Domain Authority sum up the new methods for effective SEO.
