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August 8, 2006 at 11:29 am #596111AnonymousInactive
Please report this spammer to Google. He’s on a rampage. See “poker sites” and “best poker sites” (both without quotes) for details.
Google spam report page can be found at:
http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html
Deceptive cloaking, scraping, etc. All map to redirects to/from the domain SEOEXP.INFO:
http://davidirene.mabulle.com/
http://karlvicky.carookee.com/
http://www.fw.hu/poker7/pokersites.html
http://www.fw.hu/gambling7/poker-4.html
http://www.fw.hu/poker7/poker.html
Google has been responsive of late. The more complaints, the better !!
August 8, 2006 at 1:30 pm #701415AnonymousInactiveYes, it is the right thing to do.
Sometimes it’s overwhelming, but when google acts they root out the offender, so it has a lot more impact than you see.
More importantly, they can include new aspects in their next algo, which should be a very, very interesting one.
Spammers should worry about it.
August 8, 2006 at 1:46 pm #701416AnonymousInactiveGoogle actually responded and removed at least 5-6 sites that were placed by this same spammer – his/her domain is SEOEXP.INFO – which is encouraging. Their removal took place this week.
Now the $ 64,000 question is what precipitated this removal:
1) My Google Spam reports
2) My posts on a myriad of boards
3) Spam reports logged by more IP’s than just myself
4) Got lucky ?????
I guess the more that complain the better !!!
August 8, 2006 at 2:02 pm #701418AnonymousInactiveGoogle is presently looking at the gambling search results. It is the cesspool of spamdexing. If they can clean that crap up, they can clean all the results.
They are dealing with things that fit certain criteria.
It is a very, very good time to submit, and it is alot more effective than complaining to the sites anymore.
There is a good chance things will get removed, origins recorded for filtering and all kinds of good things.
August 8, 2006 at 2:09 pm #701421AnonymousInactiveMust be brief here’s more. Google is recompiling results at the moment from my vantage point.
http://www.fw.hu/casino777/casino-12.html
http://www.fw.hu/gambling7/casino-22.html
http://www.fw.hu/gambling7/casinos-4.html
iankaren.carookee.com/
vtope.alltopmed.info/online-craps.htmlgreek39^*
August 8, 2006 at 2:11 pm #701423AnonymousInactiveI hope that you are right, Dominique, but then again, you usually are.
Perhaps Google is attacking the worst offender, which may be one of the most lucrative areas ?
August 8, 2006 at 5:28 pm #701448AnonymousInactiveI don’t understand why Casinopays and 888 and a couple of others would take such stupid chances.
Google freaking banned BMW when they did some mild infractions (redirects and hidden text I think)
Think what it would do if Google wiped Cpays and 888 off the search results.
Not a risk I would take in their place, that’s a for sure.
August 9, 2006 at 4:01 am #701503AnonymousInactiveDominique,
You are correct again. Google seems to be taking an active role in ridding the gambling spam from its index ?? I’ve filled out report for over 7-8 in the last week, and all but one have been destroyed via removal.
The question becomes, why is Google assisting with the Gambling sector ? Is this their worst offending area, so perhaps they are testing their new spam algorithms against it ? Or is this all manual removal ??
Any thoughts here ?
In any event, all good news.
Regards,
Doug
August 9, 2006 at 2:13 pm #701548AnonymousInactiveWhile this is manual removal, the properties of the spam are being recorded for future algo adjustments.
I am soooo pleased google decided to take this route.
Go Google, this is way cool!
Let’s all make sure we report this stuff, and make sure we present it exactly as asked to facilitate easy removal of the entire offending groups of listings.
August 9, 2006 at 4:05 pm #701560AnonymousInactiveDominique wrote:Google is presently looking at the gambling search results. It is the cesspool of spamdexing. If they can clean that crap up, they can clean all the results…..
Dom…? Naive…?Can i assume all those online marketers that promote viagra or any other kind of pills and medications or those who promote dating services or pornography or whatever.. are spamdexing free?
Gambling is far from being a leader in that field.. and I’ll explain.
Take a group of 1000 men, (yes, all males between 20-40 for example) and check out how many of them would like to find pornography on the net.
Then, ask the same men how many of them are interested in online gambling..
I am sure the results will look like 99% for porn vs. 15%-25% for gambling (and i’m being large).Is that something a spammer will let go?
August 9, 2006 at 4:16 pm #701561AnonymousInactiveLet’s look at it this way MD….
Let’s say it’s 5% Gamblers
and
95% porn
I don’t know about the porn industry, but I assume that you get paid on signup of a person… Lets say, though, that you get 20% of their monthly paid membership of $20 / month.
That is $4/month * 95 people = $380
Gamblers (CPA) would be: 5 players * $100 = $500
That is on a shitty CPA. And lifetime revenue share might be greater.
Which one do you think wins out?
My guess is that gambling spam is gaining ground on porn spam because 888 and others have shown to spammers that it is possible and very profitable.
August 9, 2006 at 5:15 pm #701572AnonymousInactivekwblue wrote:Let’s look at it this way MD….Let’s say it’s 5% Gamblers and 95% porn
I don’t know about the porn industry, but I assume that you get paid on signup of a person… Lets say, though, that you get 20% of their monthly paid membership of $20 / month.
That is $4/month * 95 people = $380
Gamblers (CPA) would be: 5 players * $100 = $500
That is on a shitty CPA. And lifetime revenue share might be greater.
Which one do you think wins out?
My guess is that gambling spam is gaining ground on porn spam because 888 and others have shown to spammers that it is possible and very profitable.
Frankly speaking, i am sure that for spammers pornography will win as $20 for pornography is too low. there are programs that pay about $40 per signup and while adult traffic is bigger than gambling traffic (95% vs. 5% remember?).where there’s more target audience the coversion rates will be higher {assuming rough $35*20 per day=$700}
I will not go futher into math as this will take us way off topic.The point i am trying to make is that there are other online marketing areas where the target audience is much bigger than the gambling industry. I think spammers will look for big markets first.
Persoanlly, I would try to sell more t.v’s to U.S market for small profit and many sales than selling ice to eskimos for less sales and higher profits.
hope i made the point right
August 9, 2006 at 5:40 pm #701579AnonymousInactiveMy math was probably wrong as I have never promoted porn or drugs.
However – I doubt I am the only one who thinks that Casino profit might be higher, correct? Which means it becomes a haven for BH tactics.
The point, really, was that if Google figures out one industry’s spam – it could very well apply those rules to others. It only makes sense and I hope that it works.
August 9, 2006 at 9:27 pm #701610AnonymousInactiveThis spammer is relentless. He (from Moscow) continues to create sites.
Freshly created today:
http://vincentruth.mabulle.com/
http://karlvicky.carookee.com/
http://stevencaleb.mabulle.com/
August 10, 2006 at 11:50 am #701661AnonymousInactiveSame persistent spammer, trying out different incoherent subdomains to get to the top of the SERPs.
What I now noticed is that the redirect to SEOEXP.INFO is now silent (i.e., doesn’t appear on the IE toolbar). When the link is clicked from Google results, it keeps the original page on the IE address bar (although it redirects to SEOEXP.INFO, and then subsequently redirects to a served out Advertisement page).
The key is to move your cursor on the “BACK” button label, after target page is displayed, and you will see reference to redirect page from SEOEXP.INFO.
This is extremely frustrating and unethical !!!
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