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The member said that he emailed Google asking why a page’s PageRank is zero and he got the following response from Google.
The PageRank that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is for entertainment purposes only. Due to repeated attempts by hackers to access this data, Google updates the PageRank data very infrequently because is it not secure. On average, the PR that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is several months old. If the toolbar is showing a PR of zero, this is because the user is visiting a new URL that hasn’t been updated in the last update. The PR that is displayed by the Google Toolbar is not the same PR that is used to rank the webpage results so there is no need to be concerned if your PR is displayed as zero. If a site is showing up in the search results, it doesn’t not have a real PR of zero, the Toolbar is just out of date.
There has been speculation for a long time that the PR on the toolbar was inacurate. I’m sure the link sellers don’t want people to see this.
Well, that explains why my PR is stuck despite all kinds of positive changes are happening.
Long live Yahoo search!
I think the whole of Google is merely for “entertainment purposes only”.
You have to admit … as far as search results anymore .. it’s a JOKE ! :rolleyes:
Interesting information, Ponomo! Thanks for posting that.
I have to agree with Dominique and LasVegasLady — Yahoo seems to be the best search engine out there right now (for the moment), and Google really does suck. I launched my first website nearly a month ago, and it still hasn’t been spidered by Google. Yahoo, MSN, Jeeves, and a few others found the site within 2 weeks of the launch date. Any ideas on why Google is taking so long? How often do they update the index? (Obviously not as often as Yahoo and the others). And one last question — does Yahoo have a Page Rank system?
I launched my first website nearly a month ago, and it still hasn’t been spidered by Google
I think we know why you don’t like Google.
http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/webrank/ – Yahoo’s ‘Web Rank’
I think we know why you don’t like Google.
HAH! Well, what can I say. :tounge2:
Thanks for the Yahoo Web Rank tool.
Whatever that is, it ain’t working right… LOL…
Never ceases to amaze me what people actually believe.
Engineer wrote:I launched my first website nearly a month ago, and it still hasn’t been spidered by Google. Yahoo, MSN, Jeeves, and a few others found the site within 2 weeks of the launch date. Any ideas on why Google is taking so long? How often do they update the index? (Obviously not as often as Yahoo and the others). And one last question — does Yahoo have a Page Rank system?Yahoo has exactly one page from your site. Google has seen the main page URL but not drilled down into it. You probably need more links. Google updates its index usually more than once a day. Yahoo updates every six weeks or so. Google crawls at least 10 times as much as Yahoo, probably over twenty times as much.
(I’d also check your html, your graphics aren’t loading, for example.)
Rank good in yahoo, but not google – google sucks!
Rank good in google, but not yahoo – yahoo sucks!
Rank good in yahoo and google – youve got nothing to post about!
Rank poorly in yahoo and google – you suck!FTR – Google is head and shoulders above Yahoo in pretty much every area!
Hi Classics,
Thanks for the reply.
Oddly enough, Google actually did find my site early this morning — how ironic. But you’re right, it only found the first page. Jeeves, Inktomi Slurp (is this Yahoo?), and “Alexa (IA Archiver)” also found only the first page. MSNBot was able to find 31 different pages.
What could be stopping the majority of these bots from following my links? I’m not doing anything “tricky” with the code — it’s just plain old HTML (actually it’s XHTML 1.0 Transitional). I’m using CSS to style the pages; other than that it’s plain code (no Flash, no Javascript, etc). I validated all of the pages with an XHTML validator; each page checks out error-free.
You probably need more links.
Do you mean I need more outside links pointing to my site, or do I need more links on the front page of my site leading to the interior pages?
Google updates its index usually more than once a day. Yahoo updates every six weeks or so. Google crawls at least 10 times as much as Yahoo, probably over twenty times as much.
Interesting; I didn’t know that. If that’s the case, then I guess I have some work to do!
(I’d also check your html, your graphics aren’t loading, for example.)
Hmmm. Everything works fine on my end. Is it still doing that? What specific areas aren’t showing up? I’m very interested in this — everything works fine for me, on two different computers. If there’s a problem with my images, I certainly want to look into it. None of the images are hot-linked; everything is hosted on my own domain. Maybe it was a brief problem with my hosting company, Carpathia (Prohosters).
Thanks in advance for your help.
More links means more exterior links to your site (more ways for the bots to get to your site).
The graphics don’t load because they are Forbidden, for example
http://www.onlinepokercraze.com/images/ads/pacificpoker_125x125_1.gif
and
http://www.onlinepokercraze.com/images/ads/partypoker_120x600_1.gifView Source you have to scroll and scroll to actually get to your code. I’m not a tech guy but those two things surely are not good.
Thank you, Classics. I see what you’re talking about now regarding the images being Forbidden. I have no idea how to fix that problem right now, but I’m working on it. I’m using PHP includes throughout the site; maybe that’s the problem. Has anyone else encountered this problem of having Forbidden images? If so, how did you solve the problem?
As for the white space at the top of my source code — I will be removing that today or tomorrow, on all of my pages. I don’t know if the white space would negatively affect the spidering process, but I agree, it isn’t very convenient to scroll down so much to see the code.
Thanks again.
Update —
I contacted Prohosters via their online chat option, and they helped me out. The problem, according to them, was that I had hot-linking disabled, which is (apparently) why people can’t go directly to an image like through the links Classics posted above. If you click on those links now, they should work (they do for me, at least).
Now I’m curious about when you (Classics) viewed the actual site itself, without going directly to the images. Did that also give you problems? Because if it did, if the graphics didn’t load on the main page, then I don’t see how enabling hot-linking would solve the problem. Even if hot-linking is disabled, I think the images should appear on the pages anyway (they have for me and for others who have viewed the site). Now, with the hot-linking option enabled, I feel like I’m susceptible to bandwidth leeching.
Classics, can you please check my site once more and let me know if the images are appearing correctly for you now? Thanks again for your help.
Preventing hot-linking generally works by examining the referrer field on the incoming web requests, and if the request is coming from an external domain, the request is prohibited.
If a visitor is using a browser that doesn’t send a referrer field to the server, they won’t be able to see your images, even if they’re browsing your site. Since some browsers allow the user to turn off the referrer capability, I generally don’t think the prevention of hot linking is worth the trouble it causes.
I expect if Classics encountered this issue, he may have that turned off in his browser? Classics?
