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Begin optimizing for msn trust me. There is going to be a major shift soon! Google and Yahoolees are feeling the master come on board, Mr. Gates. Start researching these problems. I would start at the beginning and read the jargon files. Find out why bots do crazy things.
Professor wrote:Google bowling positively DOES work. Not just at Google but unfortunately its even MORE effective at Yahoo and MSN.I tested it on one of my sites intentionally and on two sites of mine unintentionally (:1Dopey: ) and it does cause a negative impact.
Did you receive an outright ban, or a depression in the SERPS?
Try this, I currently have 500,000 inbound links from scrapers not only that they are also using my domain name. The numbers go up and down by the minute. I all can say is holy sh**. The scrapers are originating from sitepage.nl a Dutch search engine. I would suggest everbody check there inbounds especially on yahoo. The inbounds are from porn site, sports, horseback riding you name it. I can normally deal with ten but 500,000 is little much. greek39
I’m certain someone did this to me. My site is linked to by zillions of iexchangelinks and similar pages. Google hates me. Is there anything I can do about this?
Go to the seochat forums and post the details of your situation. They have pretty much debunked the concept of Google Bowling through one test that a couple of site owners did, though the results were somewhat inconclusive. I’m sure you will find many there that are interested in finding a concrete example of this.
Those cheapest practices ca not hurt your website IMO.
The only thing that we must care is about the kind of linking partners we have in our “resources” or similar sections.
If one of those sites is rogue, that ¡s a problem.
For that reason those “mini yahoo” directories with hundreds of links are a real trouble.Some years ago it was a similar discussion regarding the over submission of websites and penalties.
I tend to agree. Google even states that there is almost nothing another website can do to hurt your rankings. However they do use the term “almost” which means maybe there is something, but the point is that you aren’t in control of sites that are not under your ownership, so therefore you shouldn’t be penalized for whatever those sites may do. If Google Bowling is shown to work, then there are many sites out there that will get targeted across many industries, and that would not be good for Google’s relevancy.
My $0.02 cents…
I’ve tried testing various SEO related ideas, at least as much as my time permits, and the only thing conclusive I’ve come up with is there is complete randomness as to whether or not some of these suspect tactics actually work.
I know this may not be the popular opinion, but thats the way I see it.
We’ve done blatant cross linking and had great success as well as miserable results. Done site wide link buys with the same mix of good and bad, tested supposed “beat the sandbox theories” with no success etc.
The only thing I feel confident in saying about the current state of SEO is, links are still the key. Go for quality if you can, but then again sheer volume of links works also if the quality is crap.
Nobody but the Search Engines know for sure what works and what doesnt, and even then I suspect they are somewhat in the dark about how their algo’s really work. Its merely speculation based on our own personal experiences, and my experiences tell me there’s a whole lot of ambiguity from one site to another, one technique to another and so forth.
There may not be a magic bullet, good or bad, in SEO, at least none that I have found. I wish there was…
HA HA HA…
Kevin – you silly Man. Of course there is a magic bullet.
It works every time. I understand you don’t want to share your magic bullet with the rest of us, but honestly Kevin, the magic bullet is the KEY to seo.
Right now I am having a sale on magic bullets.
Only $29.99.
Hurry up and act now, because the magic bullets won’t last!
I could draw up an article of the famous algorithm, but I think few people would understand it. So instead, anything man made has order, only nature can produce a system of chaos or complexity. For example, the weather is a chaotic system with infinate amount of variables, thus chaotic.
Algorithms are not chaotic there is order. greek39
lol Ben… Are you giving me a hard time?
Maybe I need a few of your magic bullets at this point, mine arent working as well as you may think.
I still maintain that I have not found a 100% guaranteed tactic that works 100% of the time. Links are the key factor, that is well known, but even persons who are seasoned in the “dark side” of link building and other tactics have hits and misses.
Greek, I agree with your comment 100%, but disectting Search Engine algo’s for every situation and variable has practicality issues. People doing SEO may be content with understanding the basics of the algo to gain some measure of success, present company included, without ever fully understanding every nuance of the algo. From a practical point of view, the time needed to fully understand it all might not be worth the effort when this time can be spent building more websites, exchanging links etc.
yea man, just having fun… the magic bullet thing made me laugh
This is just my opinion and has worked for me beyond imagination. I even got listed on Paid SE’s for nothing.
Title each page not only in your source but also in your viewable text. Domain being brandable who cares as long as it contains some sort of gambling phrase, “dogshitgambling”. There is speculation around this but its not the domain that matters its’ the extention does. If you title your page online slots then have it as your entension. Therefore, dogshitgambling.com/online-slots.html. But if you plan on selling a domain having a savy domain is more attractive and probably fetch more cash. But if you have a domain as I mentioned and was a PR7 it could fetch more.
Now that you gave your page a title and a description. Write an essay on the subject. Use good writing skills, have a title, thesis, body and conclusion.
After, pick out your keywords, do not rely on diggers you are trying to make your site honest right? Do not write for SE’s write for your visitors the competitive keywords will come naturally. SE’s want honesty!! Take the time to update your site, just don’t let it rot. Just by entering one relevent sentence could make your site jump.
Then you are ready to optimize you site. But then again I could use that magic bullet. I am no wizard at this but when I visit a website with a bunch of internal and external links that confuse the hell out me, I’m gone.
Why not think of each page as a seprate site, now there’s something interesting. I consider HTML a bastard code, junk, garbage DOS is better. greek39
Big Fish wrote:Right now I am having a sale on magic bullets.Only $29.99.
Hurry up and act now, because the magic bullets won’t last!
I would like two magic bullets, please. I will use one of them on my new site, dogshitgambling.com!
