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  • #613842
    Anonymous
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    sent them an email and got this answer:

    Hi Kevin,

    Thank you for your email. We are not considering revoking this group’s Safe and Fair seals because there has been no breach of our eGAP requirements for the casinos. We also do not currently review their affiliate program as we do for various other operators, and therefore it is not appropriate for us to initiate a formal investigation into this matter.

    However, we would like to see this issue appropriately resolved, and I am hoping to speak to the program’s management soon to see if we can find out more.

    I have also been in contact with J. Todd about this, and will discuss any further developments directly with him.

    Kind regards

    Andrew Beveridge


    From: Peralis I Reviewed-Casinos.com
    Sent: 08 December 2008 12:14 PM
    To: General Information
    Subject: Grand Prive Group

    Hi,

    I was wondering if you are considering revoking the seal for this group of casinos after the case of player theft that is going around..

    They have been rouged/blacklisted on a number of sites already…

    I know that this is more an affiliate issue – but if they steal from us – then surely that is bad ethics and not something that a player should be exposed to.

    Have a look at these ( a short list of many sites):

    Casinomeister, Reviewed-Casinos, Casino Affiliate Programs

    Thanks and regards
    Kevin
    http://www.reviewed-casinos.com

    Great sign of integrity….:sarcasm:

    #789607
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Well if they don’t do anything then I”m pulling their seal and will make a page telling about it as well.

    I’m sick of getting screwed by programs that feel they can. I really hope eCogra reconsider and do the right thing.

    Good job sending the letter peralis! :hattip: Please keep us posted on any details.

    I may contact JT to see if he knows anything later this week.

    #789610
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I have a site devoted to ecogra casinos – It won’t look good for them if I redflag all the grand prive ones with a loud “rogue” sign.

    I lost Andrew’s address – Peralis, could you PM me with it? It’s on my old computer and would be laborious to retrieve…

    #789627
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Dominique 190000 wrote:

    I lost Andrew’s address – Peralis, could you PM me with it? It’s on my old computer and would be laborious to retrieve…

    sent :hattip:

    #789636
    vladcizsol
    Member

    Please forward to me as well. Lets let CAP take a swing at it.

    #789639
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Professor 190034 wrote:

    Please forward to me as well. Lets let CAP take a swing at it.

    Done – I posted the email here first because I thought that if one or two more people contact them, hopefully they will do something – but if they do nothing I will be writing an article about this.

    Definitely not an attitude you would want from a certification entity who brags about their morals and integrity yet ignore blatant theft.

    #789795
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The results:

    Hi Dom,

    Good to hear for you. Just as I was looking forward to a quiet end to a hectic year … J.

    We are not considering revoking this group’s Safe and Fair seals because there has been no breach of our eGAP requirements for the casinos. We also do not currently review their affiliate program as we do for various other operators, and therefore it is not appropriate for us to initiate a formal investigation into this matter.

    However, we would like to see this issue appropriately resolved, and I have been in contact with Grand Prive about this and I’m hoping to discuss this further with MGS. I’m not sure we can necessarily do anything about this, but I will certainly try.

    I’ll hopefully be in touch again soon.

    Kind regards

    Andrew

    and lateron:

    Hi Dom,

    I’ve been in contact with Grand Prive management, and they’ve explained to me in detail their reasons behind closing down the Grand Prive program and the consequences. I’ve arranged for a manager at Grand Prive to correspond directly with J. Todd at APCW to explain their position more fully. I hope that this will go some way towards resolving the situation, and I regret for the reasons I’ve mentioned before we are not going to be able to get further involved with this.

    Kind regards

    Andrew

    #789856
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Unfortunately simply explaining your reasons to do this will not resolve it. It is STILL THEFT! Whatever the reason. eCogra putting on the blinders and distancing themselves is not a good precendent.

    I will, however, wait for an official statement, then will be writing up an article about this and eCogra’s and Microgaming’s lack of interest.

    #789872
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @peralis 190345 wrote:

    Unfortunately simply explaining your reasons to do this will not resolve it. It is STILL THEFT! Whatever the reason. eCogra putting on the blinders and distancing themselves is not a good precendent.

    I will, however, wait for an official statement, then will be writing up an article about this and eCogra’s and Microgaming’s lack of interest.

    I agree with you peralis. That reply is NOT acceptable and I want to see more done. What can Grand Prive possible say to make anyone ok with this?

    #790066
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I don’t think MG really care about how the operators work as long as they are paying their monthly fees.

    #790286
    vladcizsol
    Member

    I was out of town for the last few days. We have another call scheduled with Michael and Danesh from Villa Fortuna and are trying to get them to come to their senses, though they seem to believe they are not in violation of the affiliate agreement (Lunatics)

    We havent reached out to MGS or eCogra yet either due to the pile up of work we have for CAP London, CAP Awards, CAP2.2 and a few other pending projects. We will get on that agressively in London and hopefully that will bring about something more favorable then the current situation.

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