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islandmaan wrote:… I think it shows the board supports me …
Absolutely. We’re all in the same boat with Dmoz. Be nice to find a way in without taking down 90% of our ads. Not worth the potential loss of revenue for a Dmoz listing, tho – not to me.
As far as content goes – that is a key to Dmoz – I don’t know about everyone else, but if I didn’t have to bother with SEO and other daily tasks that keep my site performing, I would have a 2,000 page site full of great content by now. Reality is, simply treading water in this business (and, for me, running after a toddler) hogs a lot of time.
“Seriously, what chance do any of us have of becoming editors of gambling categories?”
Approximately 99% if you do it right. If you apply to the top of the Sports gambling section, you’ll get rejected. Apply to a three or four site category, or one outside of gambling to start. Really, you make this sound like its hard. Anyone with half a brain can get accepted to edit a schools or churches category for their own hometown and go from there.
But most people are too lazy to bother to do the work and would rather aimlessly complain.
“why don’t the give a few more a chance at editing.”
That’s like saying why don’t they let you breathe. They do. They simply require people to start small, and most people are too selfish or too lazy or too dumb to understand that concept.
“I tried contacting a category editor once through the link at the bottom of the category and it just bounced.”
And that’s it? LOL. So do it again, and then again, and then again — if you care. If you don’t care, then there isn’t an issue here, but if you do care, then get off your ass an do something.
“Businesses shouldn’t allow that to happen even if they are volunteer operated.”
It’s not a business.
“Either note on the category page that they are not accepting submissions or make sure there are people to review them.”
They do, so this comment is nonsense.
“I don’t know about anyone elses experiences but I would be surprised if anyone without visible experience was allowed to edit a gambling related category.”
Even if true, that just means you have to pay your dues and get experience in a non-controversial area. Duh. I’m sorry but these comments just don’t make any sense. Editing is a privilege. Earn it.
“The non-commercial categories on the other hand are painfully easy to get into. But what’s the point of that?”
That just says it all. Such a person should not be an editor.
“we have received no response and have not been readmitted.”
Nobody gets a response so why mention that? And you were not readmitted probably because your site didn’t deserve or because no on one, including you, took the time to volunteer to edit that category.
“So.. my question is: What constitutes a quality site with original content?”
What kind of question is that? If you don’t know quality content in a niche, why would you submit anything or even talk about editing?
“Anyways, why work for free?”
And of course again this is an example of a person who should never be allowed to edit. Selfish people without a clue as to the mission of the Directory won’t make the Directory better.
“But accusing islandmaan of bribery because he wants to pay someone who may be able to pick the right sites and descriptions is a bit out there.”
That’s not what he said, no matter how many obtuse comments pretend otherwise. People need to learn that actions have consequences. Paying people to get you accepted is a statement of a bribe, either intentionally, or more likely in this case, out of ignorance. The lesson to learn is his statement was inappropriate and could get him and any domain associated with him in trouble. No petulance please.
The bottom line is this industry has a lot of unprofessional, selfish people, and that poisons the well for professional, generous people. Again, if you don’t care about dmoz, fine, don’t care. But the only way gambling sites will be added to a Directory of quality content websites is if people make such sites, then VOLUNTEER to fairly and honestly list such sites, including competitors and their own.
Sorry if any of this sounds harsh, but as I’ve said before, my interests are in seeing a more professional attitude about all things from the non-casino element of gambling webmasters, because the quality folks do battle with the lying, content-thieving, blog-comment spamming trash peddlers (and I don’t mean a blog spammer is a liar or theif, just that these are three types of junk peddlers).
Our aspect of this multi-billion dollar industry will only mature when the people in it act maturely and take responsibility to improve its quality. Of course many people give no crap about quality, but those who do need to do work to encourage it, not aimlessly complain about a lack of it. be the change you want to see.
I’m getting a deja vu hangover.
Here is my final statement on the subject. Classic I do not care if your are an editor on DMOZ, I stand on my history in this industry and i say good bye to you. What is your website by the way?
Better to have said:
“I was wrong to say ‘If anybody out here has had success I would be willing to pay a fee to get my new site accepted’. I should have said ‘If anybody out here has had success I would be willing to pay a fee to make my submission the best possible’.”
If that is what you meant, why not just say that?
what is your website?
I have informed the Professor of this thread.
Hey Classics,
I am with Islandmann! What is your website? Also what role do you play at DMOZ? I also agree that DMOZ looks like a cheap link farm. As a result I will not approve DMOZ to be listed on my websites. There is so much duplicate content there at DMOZ and the color scheme sucks. The people here at CAP are in the business of making a living for our families and if that is selfish, so be it.:Pisser: DMOZ
Classics we will never agree on this one. Enough said I think.
‘Approximately 99% if you do it right. If you apply to the top of the Sports gambling section, you’ll get rejected. Apply to a three or four site category, or one outside of gambling to start. Really, you make this sound like its hard. Anyone with half a brain can get accepted to edit a schools or churches category for their own hometown and go from there.’
That is weird. We have a town near here called Sylvan Lake. A tiny population, and it’s about a 10 minute drive from here. Since it had no editors I of course applied.
I also applied to edit my favorite author as I found even his official website was missing.
There is no way in hell i could earn money from those categories. Those categories had no editors and of course I never heard back from anyone. This happened for a lot more categories that I cant even remember right now. That was 2 or 3 years ago. Right now I no longer have any interest since dmoz is owned by netscape/aol and they are a dead fish.
I also find it funny that the person who is demanding honesty and open communication from everyone fails repeatedly to reveal what websites they have.
