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Discuss how we can rid the US of Republican Right Wing Extremists that are destroying OUR country.
Time to look into what is actually destroying this country.
Your right man, good and bad on both sides. I too think that is a bad title for the thread, Some of us are right wing conseritives and we have our thoughts too. I kinnda think its insulting, but I find this fourm usefull so I stick around.
Its very possible to be a conservative without being a right wing extremist Bud and Chips. I consider many of my views conservative. I vote for the candidate not the party. But there is a sector of the Republican Party which are radical extremists who do not value freedom, but instead want to propogate a twisted agenda by any means necessary.
They are POISONING the Republican party and America along with it. If you are a real conservative you should want to see them expelled as much as the rest of the country does.
These radicals represent the lowest common denominator and are an embarassment to what this country stands for. They promote racism, division, fear, intimidation, and anti patriotism. They dont believe in an equal America for all.
As I said they a radical extremist element and present a major threat to our freedom and to our security and to the security of the world.
I hope you are a true conservative Republican and want to get the party back in order. It was always meant to represent LESS Government, LESS intrusion into the personal lives and decisions of Americans, a stable economy, a strong defense, respect and leadership in the world community, no shoveling money to special interest groups and not raping the American Tax Payer out of TRILLIONS of dollars. The Republican party, as it sits now, and over the last eight years, is light years away from those ideals.
Hence the title of the forum.
@Professor 182089 wrote:
It was always meant to represent LESS Government, LESS intrusion into the personal lives and decisions of Americans, a stable economy, a strong defense, respect and leadership in the world community, no shoveling money to special interest groups and not raping the American Tax Payer out of TRILLIONS of dollars. The Republican party, as it sits now, and over the last eight years, is light years away from those ideals.
I would like to see the republican party to go back to what it stands for, too.
I have always been republican until the recent mismanagement.
@Professor 182089 wrote:
These radicals represent the lowest common denominator and are an embarassment to what this country stands for. They promote racism, division, fear, intimidation, and anti patriotism. They dont believe in an equal America for all.
Exactly! Those are the people that do us all a dis-service and McPalin display these characteristics!
BTW Bud, I’m on the Republican Business Advisory Councel (got my certificate to prove it) and have voted for republicans in the past as well as given them money. Let me know if you want to see it!
You were both Republicians and I was a Democrate, a real democrate, I work for Mayor Daily in Chicago, the OLD MAN not the son, so I go way way back voting democrate.
As far as your thought Professor
“I hope you are a true conservative Republican and want to get the party back in order. It was always meant to represent LESS Government, LESS intrusion into the personal lives and decisions of Americans, a stable economy, a strong defense, respect and leadership in the world community, no shoveling money to special interest groups and not raping the American Tax Payer out of TRILLIONS of dollars. The Republican party, as it sits now, and over the last eight years, is light years away from those ideals.
“I agree with you so much on that, I really do, 100%, but I think the Democrate party has been hijacked by the far left. This is not the democrate party my dad voted for. He was a union orginezer who was not in bed with the management is, not like today, today you cant tell them apart. I worked for the largets union in Calif for awhile, I know, they are one in the same.
What is astounding to me is I really believe you and your thoughts on changing from a R to a D, both of you, and here I am, once a D and now a R. The 3 of us changed partys because all 3 of us really and truely feel our old partys have changed too much that we cant stay.
That is very interesting I think. I, the rep want theold Dems back and you two, the Dems seem to want the old reps back. Wow, that gives me hope there might some day be some common ground. I am glad you both stated your true feelings and I hope you feel the same about me.
I wanted to post it anyway so here it is.
Absolutely. One of the biggest points of change we need in America is the ability to COME TOGETHER again and respect each other and jointly celebrate our freedom. The best chance we have to do that is clear.
We can continue to divide further or we can REALLY change. We dont need more of the same crap we have had over the past eight years.
@bud405n 182101 wrote:
That is very interesting I think. I, the rep want the old Dems back and you two, the Dems seem to want the old reps back.
The old reps and dems used to stand for something, and they kept each other in line. They were good for each other. A balance.
This doesn’t exist anymore.
What it amounts to, is that we do need change.
The parties need to take a good look at themselves and what they stand for and start striving for the US we can be proud of again.
@Dominique 182107 wrote:
The old reps and dems used to stand for something, and they kept each other in line. They were good for each other. A balance.
This doesn’t exist anymore.
What it amounts to, is that we do need change.
The parties need to take a good look at themselves and what they stand for and start striving for the US we can be proud of again.
its not change we need it’s honesty. Maybe that change will be honesty.
I started out republican and just can’t stomach another 4 years of their pissing down my leg and telling me its raining approach to politics.
the taste is so bad I don’t know if I’ll ever change back but then again it will only take one 4 year stint of the dem’s version of W and I’ll feel different.
btw: ya its not just W, its the whole republican agenda nowadays.
how many more blatant reductions of freedoms need happen before others like myself become so unhappy with the status quo they are willing to settle for whatever is behind door #2 ? … I don’t know.
But I think I am not alone and I think my crowd is ever-growing.
there simply cannot be any further distance between the classes and any kind of harmony be expected. People are taking their dogs and cats to the pound because they can’t afford to feed them any more. that’s akin to dropping off a kid to most US citizens.
I feel that more than anything has put into perspective how bad thing have become.
What I would really like to see is anybody who has any record of politics taken out of office and somebody else put into their place (that is qualified) .. let them run against another (or two) candidates … pay the winner a decent wage and run the country like a business after you’ve got the voting part done.
Your dept screws up. your head rolls. do your job, you keep it. pretty simple. or should be.
@bb1webs 182112 wrote:
I started out republican and just can’t stomach another 4 years of their pissing down my leg and telling me its raining approach to politics.
As an independent I never really quite bought into the Republican Agenda. Their idelogy irks me much more that the Democrats does, so I guess I lean left on many issues.
Personally I ‘m not voting for either candidate as I do not like their immigration policy which really won’t make any difference as aprox. 63% of my state are registered independents. Obama will win it hands down.
the taste is so bad I don’t know if I’ll ever change back but then again it will only take one 4 year stint of the dem’s version of W and I’ll feel different. btw: ya its not just W, its the whole republican agenda nowadays.
I doubt the Dems will have anything like W’s version, however I do believe they will weaken National Security.
how many more blatant reductions of freedoms need happen before others like myself become so unhappy with the status quo they are willing to settle for whatever is behind door #2 ? … I don’t know.
Repulbicans have taken civil liberties way too far with the UIGEA and the KY non-sense. Although I disagree with having to get a fisa warrant first, I haven’t heard any reports of blatent abuse but I’m sure the Dems will undo that policy.
there simply cannot be any further distance between the classes and any kind of harmony be expected. People are taking their dogs and cats to the pound because they can’t afford to feed them any more. that’s akin to dropping off a kid to most US citizens.
I feel that more than anything has put into perspective how bad thing have become.A surge in crude oil prices aside “the key cause of inflation is increases in the supply of money”. Lowering taxes and printing more money are significant causes of inflation. It’s inflation that effects the poor and middle class most. Well off people can easily absorb a rise in the cost of goods and services.
http://economics.about.com/cs/neoclassical/a/value_of_money.htm
What I would really like to see is anybody who has any record of politics taken out of office and somebody else put into their place (that is qualified) .. let them run against another (or two) candidates … pay the winner a decent wage and run the country like a business after you’ve got the voting part done. Your dept screws up. your head rolls. do your job, you keep it. pretty simple. or should be.
I think we may have had this experiment when Davis was booted out and Arnold was elected, now he wants to borrow 7 billion which brings us back to the bad immigration policy.
Professor, Dom, well put I have to say. :hattip: Maybe our views are not as different as I once thought.
Not that I feel any of us is going to change our vote, but please let me say I am so glad we got to have these few Posts today.
Thanks for allowing me to share my views in here without the fear of feeling like they were not important and to let you both know, I completely respect yours and have a much higher regard and respect for both of you.
Thanks to both of you.
Buddy
Well the biggest issue I see is nobody seems to understand congress has far more power than the president. The president is the last stop check mainly. To keep on saying another 8 years is really incorrect. Where you better off 4 years ago than you were in the last 2 with the power house democratic congress with the lowest ever rating? I know many are upset with the UIGEA but you can not blame the entire republican party for that, if you do you should blame all democrats for domain hijacking and that’s not right.
Government size reduction is key – It will balloon like the Goodyear blimp with a dem/ dem /dem government, plain and simple. I haven’t been happy with the last 8 years, Halliburton and government growth but you can not put that on McCain as his record shows he has voted more for reductions and his stance is to do just that.
Obama dropped the health care package, now going with the “I will reduce costs”, well I haven’t seen how that’s possible yet? But I would be interested in seeing the rates coverage of the government plan he said he will offer people who do not have coverage.
All I ask is to have an open mind and look at all the ramifications of voting for either one, not just the tag lines the media throws down, that is becoming the true force of the country and it should not be.
I would rather have a dem, dem, dem and weed out the bad dems in time.
Health care is a necessity. We can cut out waste in the military budget (without being punks) and other places to pay for it. People are going bankrupt due to medical bills and it’s not right.
Most people do have an open mind and as of today they seem to prefer Obama over McCain based on issues. International countries prefer Obama 4 to 1 so even though we are told that congress will be ran by the dems with a dem President and doom is coming we are willing to take the chance due to the crisis we are in today DUE TO the past 8 years.
