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I imagine that in most cases you are right but the scenario that I have read about is the case where one or more sites using the same ip address as you, if you are on a shared ip address, get blacklisted by google then that will also impact your site. Are you saying that this is no longer true? My view is that it costs so little, apart from a hopefully temporary drop in serps when switching :Cry:, to use a dedicated ip address so better safe than sorry.
Hi Heimdall,
Yes that is correct and I have always said exactly that for the past 5 years, that the cost is worth the piece of mind…but the last time that I checked around for a decent dedicated server it was £79 versus practically free on a shared. Which isn’t a bunch, but 1k per year to a mom-and-pop style site is a lot.
What the issue used to be is if your IP is in the same ‘range’ as that of a bad neighbour that their could be implications. So if your IP was 201.0.12.134 and a spammer was on 201.1.45.032 that you may get ‘pooled’ in with him.
This is not the case any more.
For me? I’ll always go dedicated.
ah ok I think we are confusing issues here a bit. You are talking about dedicated servers whilst I’m talking about dedicated ip addresses compared to shared ip addresses. With a shared ip address, which is the entry level webhosting package at most places, you share an ip address with several other sites, as a result if one of those other sites goes rogue then you will also be affected. A dedicated ip address is in effect exactly the same as a shared ip address in that it is on exactly the same machine but it has its own unique virtual ip address as identified by Google and other bots so is immune to the effects of any other sites on the same webhosting server.
I totally agree that dedicated hosting is the absolute best solution but as you say you have to pay quite a lot of money to get something good and fast.As far as I know you wouldn’t ever share an IP, only an IP range on a shared server.
2 sites would not both have the same IP’s. The first 2 series might be the same, and I guess in extreme cases 3, but not ever exactly the same.
This couldn’t happen;
your site 201.0.0.33
their site 201.0.0.33It would be like this;
your site 201.0.45.133
their site 201.0.78.432Sorry but I think you’re wrong on this, the way I’ve had it explained to me it works is for example my site would be
217.112.82.16/~highroll
and another site might be
217.112.82.16/~casinorusThey would have exactly the same underlying ip address just that http://www.high-rollercasinos.com would resolve to 217.112.82.16/~highroll and the other website would resolve to 217.112.82.16/~casinorus. This is why it’s so dangerous.
The way to test this is to simply type in 217.112.82.16, which is still my underlying webserver ip address, with my dedicated ip address pointing at it, and see whether or not you can reach my site.
It could well be that different hosting solutions are different from mine but I don’t really see why they would be.
heimdall;184279 wrote:Sorry but I think you’re wrong on this, the way I’ve had it explained to me it works is for example my site would be
217.112.82.16/~highroll
and another site might be
217.112.82.16/~casinorusThey would have exactly the same underlying ip address just that http://www.high-rollercasinos.com would resolve to 217.112.82.16/~highroll and the other website would resolve to 217.112.82.16/~casinorus. This is why it’s so dangerous.
The way to test this is to simply type in 217.112.82.16, which is still my underlying webserver ip address, with my dedicated ip address pointing at it, and see whether or not you can reach my site.
It could well be that different hosting solutions are different from mine but I don’t really see why they would be.
This is correct because I am a reseller for a hosting company and usually put around 100 sites under 1 IP unless someone wants a unique IP. When I signed up with the company, the original IP they gave me had over 1000 websites under 1 IP.
For my personal sites I always make sure I have unique Class C IP’s because it does make a difference and doesn’t cost much.
I agree it doesn’t cost much apart from when the hosting provider forgets to enable it properly and just when the site starts to rank well it gets fixed/enabled and consequently google suddenly hates your site much preferring a site which hasn’t had any new content added to it in over a year and with hardly any inbound links! I just don’t understand Google’s algorithm.
OK I’m now coming up too 3 weeks since my change to dedicated ip address, the serps if anything have gone a bit further down after I sent Google a request for reconsideration, not that they’ve actually bothered replying to it!
I really don’t know what else to try, I’ve checked my site for any other penalties, and also checked with webmaster tools, and can’t see anything but I’d appreciate if someone else could maybe take a look at http://www.high-rollercasinos.com and tell me if they see something which could be angering Google, maybe some change which I need to do to suit their algorithm. I have not changed anything since the time, 3 weeks ago, when I was top ranked for the term “high-roller online casinos”. Is there anything else I could try or is it still a case of just waiting and praying that all my hard work hasn’t been for nothing.
BTW I have also checked on Copyscape for duplicate content and can’t find anything.
