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October 20, 2003 at 7:49 am #583645bb1websGuest
Hi,
recently having run a live help window that pops up shortly after the visitor arrives; I was surprised at how many people were still very green behind the ears on the net.
with all the deposit problems of recent; I am going to start running more educational spots on how to deposit.
I cautiously , or more so….. hesitantly,… am going to start running some Focal ads in better spots.
I’ve never made any money there to speak of; have serious doubts about the integrity of Crypto’s program more so than that of Focal ; (meaning I’d expect same / similar results with intercasino or will hill etc): but all that said; I can deposit using my debit card there and no where else have I been able to do so.
I don’t know how they get away with it. i have a Visa debit card.
I know a few people have claimed success with Focal. I recall a devious charactor from another place stating he’d made $5k one month with them. I would guess he makes 4 times or more that with most other Microgaming casinos; but maybe not.
what has your experience been with Focal in particular, but also with any Crypto casino program?
thanks in advance for your reply.
October 20, 2003 at 12:35 pm #640400AnonymousInactiveWell Crypto is not one of my better programs but I dont push them either. I have had a very nice surprise before. No issues on payments .. You might do well with them..
October 20, 2003 at 1:01 pm #640401vladcizsolMemberI added Cryptologic to my sites in August so they haven’t been up long. I have never been impressed with the software so I took a long time to get around to including them on my network.
So far I am not seeing much revenues and am reluctant to give them any better exposure due to their generally ugly creatives and non competetive new player bonuses.
I like Frank/Dean from Focal Click on a personal basis, but so far as a business proposition Cryptologic has been less then spectacular.
October 20, 2003 at 1:48 pm #640402bb1websGuestyep, that’s been my experience as well.
Like i said; its a shame because I can deposit there with my card that can’t deposit any other place.
That has got to open some doors, Or so I would think.
I feel pretty certain Crypto has been screwing me on the poker end of things.
I guess I’m just grabbing at whatever I can find to provide a casino where people can deposit.
I wish I knew how they are able to take my deposits and no other place can.
October 20, 2003 at 1:54 pm #640403AnonymousInactiveWell, I was going to post stats and figures, but am not entirely comfortable with that anymore.
If you are interested how I am doing there you can pm me.
October 20, 2003 at 3:56 pm #640405AnonymousInactiveBB1 folcal click is not the best one I to promote.
There is a couple that do better.
October 20, 2003 at 4:06 pm #640406vladcizsolMemberKrystall is right. I earn more with Partnerlogic myself and I have heard good feedback about William Hill in the past.
October 23, 2003 at 4:40 am #640531AnonymousInactiveI asked for an explanation on my stats:
Your customer lost $100 in September. You had a previous carryover of $93 from August ($100 minus finance fee of $6.00 and pin fee of $1.00). A finance fee was again charged in September ($6.00) bringing the over total to $187. A finance fee is assessed one time per customer if they wager within a month. Let me know if you have any questions.Frank
http://www.focalclick.com
THEY CHARGE ME $6 finance fee every time my player wagers?? and a pin fee?? …. fucked up in my opinon, however, listening to BB’s interest in their CC processing going through ok, maybe that’s why they’re charging me $6 finance fee?
I don’t understand these folks much
:crazy:PS: it should be noted that I give them hardly any exposure and they did perform immediately for me, which is rare in my case.
October 23, 2003 at 3:13 pm #640545AnonymousInactiveOk, they don’t charge everytime they wager, only once a month.
And the finance fee is based on the affiliate’s net earnings.
Referback does the same thing but they don’t post it on their site.
So basically, if you earn $100 gross for the month you will be charged 6% or $6.
Inter currently doesn’t do this yet, but I’ve heard they are thinking about doing this in the near future.
Actually most programs charge you – they just have it set up so you will never know.
I wouldn’t want to punish focal for being honest about it.
So everyone knows I am a fan of Focal – here’s why:
I made no money with them for a long time – like referback and casino rewards.
I decided to finally listen to some program. Focal had the lousiest banners (much better slowly) and apparently some people were doing great with it anyway. I let Frank tell me what to do. ( I never let ANYONE tell me what to do! Quite a feat!)
I followed his advice and – voila – started making money with crappy banners.
So it gained momentum and now he is one of the few programs I actually push – mostly I just make small amounts here and there and everywhere.
I do like scattering the income – I have always disliked the feeling of having all my eggs in one basket. But once I do find someone I really trust, – which is two or three programs in two years – I do push them.
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