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chatmaster, your arguments and point of view is clear to me now better then before, and preety convincing as well
thanks for your inputYou just climbed a notch in my respect book. Thank you for at least having an open mind on the issue. I know you still have your view point though…
Maybe it is pure coincidence, but I seem to be getting a lot of traffic this afternoon. Particulary from one country in the middle east. :rasta:
DDOS?
Can you pm me the IP?Chatmaster wrote:DDOS?
Can you pm me the IP?Not a DDOS – A bot scraping. IP Address is 80.74.114.188
But thanks to whoever it was, as I missed this range of Israeli IP’s when mass blocking access to my sites to visitors from that country:
80.74.96.0 – 80.74.127.255
OK, I have given the IP to my friend. Maybe he can return the courtesy? :devil:
Kind of dumb really, you would have thought they would have used TOR at least :1Dopey:
Anyone care to guess how much money 888 share holders have lost in the last two days as the share price for 888.com has dropped by more than 5.5%?
Oh ya… it is amazing to me what a couple of emails to a financial reporter will do.
If any of you have a spare minute or two, write a an email to your local financial reporter, TV or Newspaper, just point them to this thread or Dominique’s Rouge page and also just ask them to do a search in google for “888.com” and look at the results.
Webzcas wrote:Just had a quick check on google, using the names of sites without spaces and their tld extension, who have rogued 888 and it appears many have been hit by these sites with .pl and .info domain names.Sites affected and which have subsequently accrued these thousands of backlinks are:
onlinecasinoreviewer.com
gamblog.co.uk
gamesandcasino.com
choicegambling.comThis is definately a crude attempt at google bowling our sites and there are many more being hit in addition to those four sites listed above.
This means we were correct in our action in roguing 888 en masse for their failure to police their affiliate network. 888 and/or the Super Scraper who promotes them using stolen content must be very pissed off and be hurting by our just and right course of action in roguing 888.
Fully well knowing this, means I will be sinking a few beers in celebration as a result
Interesting.Janet is right for the most part. Where to draw the line is a mobile target depending on ones personal view and the lack of legal clarity.
Some people niche.
Some buy.
Some spray as much shit as they can and hope some sticks.joeyl wrote:Some spray as much shit as they can and hope some sticks.Well, this thread needed some humor!
I like the topic of this thread, and the fact that it has gained so much attention. It remided me today to go back to the original blacklist thread, and make sure that my list of free backlinks to those sites that have there rougue articles up is up to date.
It brought a topic that needs to be out here where we clean up this issue right into the open. Noone has ever scraped my site, noone has stolen my content, the worst i see in a day is a bit of forum spam.
I write articles and sell them to people that value original content, some value it enough to pay upwards of $500 for an article.. they actually pay to have this original content for their sites.. I imagine how they will feel if someone stole it later on.
I write articles for my own sites.. hours and hours I spend on them.. I can’t imagine how i’d feel to have that time wasted.. as my site is unique and offers unique points of view…
I will draw the line, when I don’t imagine how badly my friends must feel after having been ripped off, so what if the content was stolen from a google search engine description, or from their own site.. it was stolen..
It doesn’t have to be illegal for me or anyone else to speak out against it.. Dom created the best way I can see for us to speak out against it for the time being, as a team, because thats what we are here at CAP, a group with common goals that support each other.
If you havent already done so, PM me with your 888 articles.. and I’ll add your links today.
~LadyH
Hi,
I apologize if someone already brought this up, but frankly I don’t have time to read thru the 8 pages of posts.
But I am in total agreement with Janet in that I think the answer to the problem lies with the SEs rather than anything we can do, at least at present. And expect to get any kind of reasonably successful results.
I imagine by the time someone gets a scraper site taken down by their ISP, that 20 more have been thrown up. …. that number is likely missing a zero.
anyway, … as I understand it: the scraped pages are never even allowed to be read by surfers, because they get redirected to an ad or sponsor site.
Well isn’t it obvious? The SEs need to put a stop to this silly shit. Its been going on a long time … bout as long as I can recall, … where you’d do a search and click on what you thought was going to be a page you’d really want to see … and at least in some cases you’d maybe get a glimpse of the page you wanted to see … and then you’d get transfered to the ad page.
Why do the SEs allow this to happen? Surely with all those rocket scientists over at google or yahoo … they could come up with a solution.
I can remember in some cases, I imagine many cases in respect to our niche, … I would search for a gambling related term and literally get an entire page of nothing but redirects over to the ad page.
I’ve never understood why the SEs allow this to happen without severely punishing sites that do it?
Perhaps they do punish for it; but that raises the question in my mind: what is the problem with why can’t they immediately recognize when a redirect happens? and then just as quickly have that page, or perhaps even the entire domain thrown out of the SE listings?
They sure don’t seem to have a problem with their (reaction) speed when it comes to spotting a site with links to gambling in their PPCs.
btw before i go: I reserve the right to be completely ignorant (therefore wrong) in all the above
… but after reading the first half of this thread I didn’t ever see anybody chasing the direction I mentioned above (other than Janet having touched on it) so I thought I’d at least ask.
There are always two sides to every story. Although I do agree, with some of Janets comments, there is another view.
Do some research and you will find many web scrapers/screen scrapers/malcious hackers/crackers ect.. have ended up with stiff fines and jail time.
I do not wish to comment any futher, I have better things to do. greek39
Hi again,
Not sure we’re on the same page G.
What I was wanting to know about is why the SEs allow the redirects?
I did do a little research and my understanding is it is for when a site has an updated page the traffic to the old page can be redirected to the new content.
But to me, that seems a pretty lame reason for allowing something that in my mind, from strictly a user’s pov, is the worst thing happening to SEs.
In fact, to give you an idea of how tainted the process is- would be the fact that despite having had enough experience with redirects (as a surfer) to find them an unwanted pain in the ass … yet apparently I’ve yet to come upon a redirect that was ever useful (at least if you disallow the times I get the message: “click here if the page doesn’t redirect in 5 seconds”.
With all that in mind, … I just don’t get why SEs allow them.
or am I wrong in my assumption on the use of redirects?
