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Hey Nicolas, is there a general rule of thumb for manager credits given? Like a percentage of deposits or losses, do you know how they are figured so we can each decipher and make conclusions in our own stats ? thanks.
Hi Cagney12,
I have repeated this many times. You can see the bonuses on the websites, they are published, it is all open and transparent.
The only thing that is not transparent right now, is my point that for January, February, March and April, THE SAME amounts of credits were applied as in May, June, July, yet professor made money. According to the accusation, this would be impossible.
Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
GamblingWages Affiliate Managerand Nic,
give some thought to talking to those in charge about setting up a separate page where players aren’t given option for bonuses/ credits.
surely your program cannot stand to lose in such matter? Because one way …. they got a chance to get some nice players sent by affs who WON”T go for the current scheme.
Sound fair? what you got to lose?
Thanks KW.
guess that was the drowning moment for me……. back to my partner …. i WILL NOT promote a site with quotas.
they wouldn’t have that player I sent … if not for my sending them.
what hell it matters how many i send in future months …… has no bearing.
Sorry Nic. was trying to be understanding and all that …… but quotas are shit!
no sale here.
I’m done.
Nicolas, I see the coupon amounts on the websites, however I am talking about the separate “manager bonuses” we see in our stats. I’m sorry if I don’t understand, but what exactly is a “managers bonus” and why or when are they given out? …just trying to clarify…thanks
Hi Bb1webs,
You are going off topic, who we target is another issue, our Terms and Conditions are another issue; both of which are openly available for ANYONE to check and discuss. I can discuss this all with you on another topic. But right now a grave accusation has been made putting into question our honesty and I cannot stand for this since we are honest.
Now I want this accusation deal with.
The accusation has been made that when more manager credits are applied then deposits made, it is impossible to make money, right? That is the accusation.
So my response is that in the Professor’s stats for January, February, March and April, THE SAME amounts of credits were applied, yet he made money. If the theory being posted is correct, no money could have been made during these months. If the stats are posted, my point will be made.
These past stats are 100% relevant and you can prove me wrong or right easily, so please post them. No intention on being mean or disrespectful, but this is important.
To Cagney12
I have answered this before; http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showpost.php?p=132705&postcount=8
But I will answer again. Manager Credits are given when a player has a bonus that does not come in automatically, like Cashback bonuses, insurance or simply when a normal bonus does not go through automatically (bonuses sometimes don’t come up automatically and managers have to credit them manually, then they come up under manager credits)Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
GamblingWages Affiliate Manager@GamblingWages 132768 wrote:
Hi Bb1webs,
The accusation has been made that when more manager credits are applied then deposits made, it is impossible to make money, right? That is the accusation.I think you were the only one to make this ‘exact’ statement… I don’t believe anyone is saying that it is ‘impossible to make money’… they are saying that these credits are being used to dissolve affiliate earnings.
Just my small effort at clarification of a statement that is being used to discredit the Prof.
Thanks Nicolas, sorry I missed that previous.
Basically then you are saying that manager bonuses are given out for whatever reason the manager sees fit, missed coupon redemptions, losses, rainy day…whatever? However I ask again….are the manager bonuses generally a certain percent of the deposits for a player?Let’s say I deposit 500, claimed a 444 percent match coupon, lose the entire thing and feel bad about it, so I write the manager a email saying what crap etc, and he wants to keep me happy and depositing…so he credits me a couple hundred on good faith? or what?
Hi Guys,
First off I am not trying to discredit the professor, I am trying to solve this issue. I don’t know the professor has even checked these past months. As I said earlier, I believe this whole issue is a misunderstanding.
“imposible to make money” “dissolve commission” “rape” “discredit commissions” “shave”, whatever you like to call it, it is the same.
The accusation has been made that when more manager credits are applied then deposits made, it “dissolves the commissions”, right? That is the accusation.
So my response is that in the Professor’s stats for January, February, March and April, THE SAME amounts of credits were applied, yet he made money. If the theory being posted is correct, no money could have been made during these months. If the stats are posted, my point will be made.
These past stats are 100% relevant and you can prove me wrong or right easily, so please post them. No intention on being mean or disrespectful, but this is important.
Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
GamblingWages Affiliate ManagerHi Cagney,
No that is not what I am saying. I am saying when cash back is given (as stated in the casino’s rules; use the coupons of one promo 5 times and can’t win, you get a cash back).
It also comes up when a bonus does not go in automatically and a manager has to credit it manually.
There are manager credits that are given at the manager’s discretion, but no more then $100. And the managers know what they are doing; they give this to players that show obvious signs of someone who is 99% not going to cash out, due to his game play.
And if he had lost the $100 manager credit, plus a $100 deposit, then the net profit would be $200 and $100 would be taken of since it was a manager credit. The other $100 would come up as “Net Profit” which is the part of the stats you should be looking at.
You can accuse us of untimely payouts, I can’t deny. You can accuse us of untimely answers to emails, which I can’t deny. You can accuse us of having “nasty” terms, or whatever you want to call it, I can’t deny. But we are honest with keeping to our terms; I want this accusation dealt with.
The accusation has been made that when more manager credits are applied then deposits made, it “dissolves the commissions”, right? That is the accusation.
So my response is that in the Professor’s stats for January, February, March and April, THE SAME amounts of credits were applied, yet he made money. If the theory being posted is correct, no money could have been made during these months. If the stats are posted, my point will be made.
These past stats are 100% relevant and you can prove me wrong or right easily, so please post them. No intention on being mean or disrespectful, but I want to clear things with everyone.
Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
GamblingWages Affiliate ManagerNicolas, thanks for taking the time, I know it’s past the end of your day!
With the answer given,we actually have no way of knowing if manager credits given are reasonable with the rules on the website then, being some can be coupons that were missed and a player writes in stating that…then manager has to manually credit etc…. So for another words it’s just a matter of trust to the person giving out manager credits?
Hi Cagney12,
Obviously the manager doesn’t depend on the player’s word. He can easily see all the activity of a player, and I can see a lot of it; which is why I’m telling Professor that his commissions were dissolved by a player winning, not faul play, I even have screen shots of this withdrawals.
The manager can easily see x player deposited x amount using x coupon and the system did not get the coupon through automatically. So the player contacts the manager, but the manager verifies all the information. Casino operators generally can see pretty much all that a player does, from the moment he even tries to log on (if he fails that is also recorded).
But my point has still not been dealt with. The accusation has been made that when more manager credits are applied then deposits made, it “dissolves the commissions”, right? That is the accusation.
So my response is that in the Professor’s stats for January, February, March and April, THE SAME amounts of credits were applied, yet he made money. If the theory being posted is correct, no money could have been made during these months. If the stats are posted, my point will be made.
These past stats are 100% relevant and you can prove me wrong or right easily, so please post them. No intention on being mean or disrespectful, but I want to clear things with everyone.
Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
GamblingWages Affiliate ManagerHi Nick,
I’ve stopped to promote your product since a while..for the same reason of Professor.
I’ve made the first two-three month some cash..and you know what’s happens after? Total deposit like 750-1500…total manager credit : 2500 and more.
Each month that i work with you…my stats finished in negative…that’s really not normal. That’s don’t encourage an affiliate to continue promote you (Also that was my first affiliate programs). I’ve closed my aff account with you since a while cause your business conduct it’s abolute not normal…if you compare your stats with any other Rtg (like Inetbet)..
I don’t want to offense you..you seems to be a nice guys, however..in your place.. like professor told, give us a nice reputation of you cause you will not be at gamblingwages all your life!
Cheers,
SimonI have a question,
I have been reading all these posts, and i have to ask this question, because the answer you have given Nicolas , still doesn’t work for me.
You say that Manager credits are for , manual coupons that didn’t go through, missed bonuses that didn’t credit, or player satisfaction, to players that have asked for a bonus and you believe won’t cash out on it, BUT only up to $100.
If this is true, then why is the Coupon Credits so much smaller than the Manager credits? i mean, if you are only crediting missingbonuses or coupons, or just giving chips of no more than 100$. how do you explain a 3000$ or more difference between the two amounts?
To me, if that is all the manager credits are, then the total should be alot closer to what the coupon totals are . give or take a few hundered for manager credits to satisfy unhappy players?
Do you give manager credits to inactive player accounts trying to get them to come back and purchase?
If so are all the unused manager credits removed at end of month so affiliates do not get nailed on this
