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not good at all – it seems not only cpays has decided to breach their own t&c. i work very closely with casinopartners and have more then a few accounts there. before i say anything else, take a look at what their t&c say:
“1.8 “Revenue sharing commission structure – Casino” is the percentage of Casino Net Revenue due and payable to you, at the end of each calendar month, based solely on our system’s data. The Advertising Revenue will be 25% of the “Casino Net Revenue” according to the amount of wagers made by players you send within 1 month of activity (see chapter 4).”
this is what came today from manager of one of my accounts:
“I’m your new affiliate manager for Casino Partners. I wanted to take a look at your site, but don’t have one listed in your account information and noticed that you have never sent us players in the past. For this reason, I am lowering your revenue share percentage from 25% to 20% until we can talk about your current sites and see what we can work out to promote our brands.”
what he writes is quite true – this one account i have never used in the past and never even sent one player. what i dont like is the tone of this email – would you say my inactivity on the account justifies this? i certainly think it does not and would not want to see casinopartners follow the steps of the beloved cpays…
That is ridiculous! But then again – weren’t they just linked to CPays buy the guy with an ex-employee as a new hire?
Sounds like they are linked just like he said. That’s pretty much the same exact thing that CPays does.
CPays is linked with Playtech (Playtech actually owns them though they operate totally under their own management).
REMEMBER THIS IS THE PRIVATE AREA AND THIS INFORMATION IS CONFIDENTIAL.
I have never heard that Casino Partners is owned by the same group and in the past they both seemed to REALLY dislike each other.
Regarding the email, it sounds like a motivational attempt. The rep who sent it was basing that email on a dormant account. I doubt they would do this to you on your active account.
With Laurent moving on it will be interesting to see what happens with Casino Partners. For the second time in a few months I have had to request an invoice. Sent to payments email address with a copy to Gabi, my affiliate manager. Over the last six months I’ve gone back and forth with Gabi about all the problems (spam, late payments, no response the posts in forums etc) and he basically admitted there was nothing he could do. I then told him no chance of getting me to increase exposure.
Yesterday I get an email from John, my new affiliate manager. Same crap about how can we increase exposure. He is about to get a short to the point email from me. Not sure if Gabi has moved on or he has passed me to the new guy because he realised I wasn’t budging.
I really hope Casino Partners changes with Laurent’s departure, and the threads here actually achieve something rather than him just trying to justify why they can/can’t do things. Everyone remembers that thread about spamming the Forbes forum don’t they?
Only yesterday I was thinking that Palytech is becoming the same as RTG was a couple of years back. As a software provider they don’t appear to care what their licensees do.
Is their a connection between cpays and CP. You bet there is I am 100% certain. Since Laurent’s depature things have gotten worse not better. I would begin throwing CP to the dogs.
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Jarvi wrote:Not sure if Gabi has moved on or he has passed me to the new guy because he realised I wasn’t budging.Gabi has left like 4 or so months ago Jarvi
He was my manager as well.Is Laurent really leaving/has already left them? Funny – i met with one of their higher-ranked managers Daniel about 3 months ago in London. And guess what – about two weeks ago i found out hes been fired.
And Professor – as much as i understand the encouraging tone of the email i have received, isnt it still violation of their own T&Cs?
I always thought they hated each other too.
Increasingly over the last year though their SEO spam has merged. The same sites will show Cpays casinos one time, cpartners the next. Either they are hiring the same spammer or they are cooperating otherwise.
Laurent’s departure leads me to speculate that playtech may have acquired them. I just can’t see Laurent leaving his baby without outside interference.
Just speculation. :tooconfus
Quote:Laurent’s departure leads me to speculate that playtech may have acquired them.That certainly sounds plausible and would explain why the big “licensees” fell in behind Playtech’s decision to block off the US even though they all had to know it meant death for their businesses.
Allow me to point out that CPays is actually owned by Empire, who sold all of their gaming properties to Party earlier this month.
Who’s left on Playtech that doesn’t have baggage?
Gaming Partners (Kiwi & Fastwin) are the only ones that I’m pretty comfortable with now. Unfortunately, they don’t seem to be converting my non-US traffic all that well.Kiwi Casino is the only Playtech I have left on my sites. At some point I might bring back one or two casinos from Casino Blasters and Allstar Affiliates, but I’m in no hurry to do that since they don’t accept U.S. players.
I was pissed about the lack of communication from Allstar/Blasters during the migration to Golden Casino, and I’m still not sure how I feel about Best Casino Partner. I suppose they are all one in the same; they probably share an office in Montreal (or wherever in Canada they are). However, even though the transition was handled poorly, it was a much better solution than simply closing all of the accounts. For the life of me I don’t understand why they are the only program that did this.
I’m done with Casino Partners. To be honest, I never felt good about Laurent. It’s hard for me to describe, but I always got the feeling that his priorities were in the wrong places, and that he’d rather look the other way when it came to spam/black hat issues. His posts often rubbed me the wrong way.
Anyway, Casino Partners is gone from my sites for a few other reasons, the main one being that my monthly income decreased every time I put them in the top spots. Oh, and the negative carryover and $250 minimum payout didn’t help things either.
Gaming Partners is the only Playtech group that appears to run a clean ship. Unfortunately, Kiwi has never been that profitable for me.
Thanks CK44m, looking back the last email from Gabi was mid November where we agreed that I wasn’t increasing the exposure and he wasn’t going to do anything about the issues I raised.
Engineer, I pretty much agree with your opinion. I just hope one of my sub-affiliates who consistently makes heaps with them continues. Oh, I’ve just realised, it might be one of the spammers…
Well, I had a chat with Laurent today and apparently he is not leaving the industry but will be back soon with a smaller outfit. That’s all he was willing to say to me. He said he felt good about it.
Blasters claim firmly that they do not own bestcasinopartner. They say it is owned by novices to the industry and that they do not have any influence.
In Blasters defense, they were the one and only playtech group who even bothered to try to save our revenues for us.
Actually I think that banks and black widow did map people over also, but I am not entirely sure since I had no players there at all.
The rest just didn’t even attempt to do anything at all. I am pissed at the lot of them for that. They could have at least tried.
