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November 10, 2005 at 3:56 pm #676098AnonymousInactive
The writer I am referring to does exclusive writing. He does not copy other content it would be 100% unique.
November 10, 2005 at 4:49 pm #676100AnonymousInactiveTo some degree you will get what you pay for. There are also many who have no idea what the true value of a quality original artilce is. If you have an established site and can buy an article for $100, put it on your site and be listed within a short time in the top 10 for just one decent search term contained in that article, then you have made a killing. The true value of the article will be much higher than $100. If you have a new site and/or it sucks, it may not matter how good the article is, it may never rank. So there are many things to consider. Yes you can buy content for cheap, but for the most part it will not do you a tremendous amount of good. You can also buy expensive content that sucks, so you have to be careful.
I believe I know who gave you those prices Mark / Focal and if so, she has stopped writing. From what I have seen though, she was not bad at all. She was not charging enough.
It’s not a big secret that I write poker content, and I charge .20 a word. If I have to sell it for less, then it is more valuable to me to put it on my own sites. My proof of value is when something I have written for someone shows up in the top ten for a decent phrase. This happens often and these webmasters don’t mind paying because they have had the value proven to them. Many people won’t ever pay this type of money for an article, and that is fine, but until I run out of work, that or higher, will be the charge.
November 10, 2005 at 5:46 pm #676104AnonymousInactiveBTW, Pokermonger now writes my poker content and has been for some time and will continue to do so as long as he likes.
November 10, 2005 at 6:46 pm #676113AnonymousInactiveThanks for the clarification Pokermonger!
November 11, 2005 at 11:29 am #676173AnonymousInactiveMason from Two Plus Two Publishing pays $200 for a 1000 word article that gets published in their monthly online magazine. The article is taken down from the site after 3 months and the rights are then returned to the author. (!)
The guy who charges $125 for 500 words seems reasonable provided he writes high quality original content.
Paying for articles to use for affiliate sites is kinda like a CPA model. You pay the writer a one time fee and one of you is going to make a jackpot. Either you suck at SEO and make no money from the article or the article results in you getting a whale and then the writer loses.
Really good writers should consider starting a site themselves.
The lady who sold content for $35/1k words was either selling garbage or just really really dumb.
Consider http://www.playwinningpoker.com – Rumors are that Mr. Badger rakes in $1 million per month in commission. Why would he sell pages to you guys for $100 a piece?
November 11, 2005 at 3:48 pm #676195AnonymousInactiveI am asking people here and not at any of the many freelance writing places online, because it is an opportunity for some people to learn and advance their own websites.
Pokermonger states:
If you have an established site and can buy an article for $100, put it on your site and be listed within a short time in the top 10 for just one decent search term contained in that article, then you have made a killing. The true value of the article will be much higher than $100. If you have a new site and/or it sucks, it may not matter how good the article is, it may never rank. So there are many things to consider. Yes you can buy content for cheap, but for the most part it will not do you a tremendous amount of good. You can also buy expensive content that sucks, so you have to be careful.
Except that you are still a long way away from making a kiilling. You need hundreds of these keywords in this industry, sometimes thousands of these minor keywords to start making good money.
Articles do draw visitors, but they do not sell online gambling. That is a whole other thing, what you do with the visitor once you have them there.
Many visitors you gain through articles just want to know some detail about some game and have no interest in signing up for online gaming properties. In this case, and it is frequent, the article has next to zero value. It does help branding, if you brand your site.
Casinos don’t much pay for branding, they only pay for players. Even once you have a huge readership and casinos flock to buy space on your site, they still only pay for players, not branding.
That may be very shortsighted of them, but we still have to live with it and cannot build pure content sites and make money. We still have to sell online gaming, and we have to presell the specific properties we promote.
If casinos would see the light and pay just for branding, then info sites with lots of high quality articles would always pay off. I bet players from that type of site have much superior value. They are afficionados.
But as is, Pokermonger is exactly right, the value of an article is dictated by the site that carries it.
I have seen some decent articles for $15. I have bought decent articles for that. If you have a new site it is ok to do that, just make sure there is actual info there and not just fluff.
Stay away from so called SEO articles – usually that means keyword stuffing and that is frowned upon by the engines.
As your site grows the value of an article grows, as long as you still sell well. If you sell well, you will be able to afford better articles.
The growth occurs naturally.
Personally I prefer having a close working relationship with people who do work with me, and I like exclusivity and permanence. So I like to recruit from within the industry – affiliates and players.
If you have a different management style or don’t want permanence, you can recruit anyplace, but it still pays to have people write about stuff they are very familiar with. Finding someone like Pokermonger, who loves to write about poker and knows his stuff, is a great thing to happen.
November 11, 2005 at 4:26 pm #676209AnonymousInactiveDom, for all the writing you have done on the forums you could have a writers award named after you…:kisser:
And you hire people to write? I am a DIY’er, anyone screws up only moi to blame. :highflyer
November 11, 2005 at 5:08 pm #676212AnonymousInactiveI am just curious but what does a $15 article get you?
I don’t know which one you mean so I can’t really judge, but it HAS to be fairly vague. I personally write magazine quality articles on my sites, so I can’t even imagine someone writing original, exclusive high quality content for such low prices.
November 11, 2005 at 5:41 pm #676220AnonymousInactiveI bought “history of….” for that. Had all the facts and the writing was fine. These are short articles.
November 11, 2005 at 5:43 pm #676221AnonymousInactiveMy wife just quit her job to write and maintain new content for my sites.
If you are interested in taking a look, check out our blog for her style and let me know what you would like to see. I am currently heavily focused on poker so she could work on other areas for the right price.
http://freerollerz.blogspot.com/
She is mama diva there.
November 11, 2005 at 6:11 pm #676226AnonymousInactiveI have two articles written by my content writer which I will not use. The topic Online Poker aprox 500 words/article. Anyone interested pm me. Find out this guys talent first hand. greek39
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