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@webber286 216714 wrote:
Yes, everything SEO related online is a guess since Google doesn’t share their algorithm details, and for good reasons. The point is to find the best guess available as clearly PR is not all that helpful anymore.
Webber I agree with you here…I just don’t think replacing a “black-box secret metic” (toolbar PR) with another “black-box secret metric” (OSE Page Authority) is the answer though, which is what I thought you were suggsting by the title of the post.
TBPR has been a terrible metric for how long? At least 2+ years ago (if not longer) G started f’ing with the toolbar and even then it was not a true sign of authority. So people still infatuated with PR now are ether newbs, paid to find PR links, or probably wont ever get that pagerank shouldn’t be the metric. Convincing these types of people otherwise…good luck.
A bunch of webmasters chasing PR is not a bad thing…let them, keep them busy. Used to have a poker saying “don’t tap on the glass”. When the poker pro gets sucked out on the river he should not tell the fish how horrible the call was or why it was the wrong move. I would hate to see the day that everyone forgets about PR and concentrates on getting more traffic and higher rankings.
How does the tool do for you when you look at your own sites? Does it find all your authority pages?
@casinodave 216719 wrote:
Webber I agree with you here…I just don’t think replacing a “black-box secret metic” (toolbar PR) with another “black-box secret metric” (OSE Page Authority) is the answer though, which is what I thought you were suggsting by the title of the post.
TBPR has been a terrible metric for how long? At least 2+ years ago (if not longer) G started f’ing with the toolbar and even then it was not a true sign of authority. So people still infatuated with PR now are ether newbs, paid to find PR links, or probably wont ever get that pagerank shouldn’t be the metric. Convincing these types of people otherwise…good luck.
A bunch of webmasters chasing PR is not a bad thing…let them, keep them busy. Used to have a poker saying “don’t tap on the glass”. When the poker pro gets sucked out on the river he should not tell the fish how horrible the call was or why it was the wrong move. I would hate to see the day that everyone forgets about PR and concentrates on getting more traffic and higher rankings.
How does the tool do for you when you look at your own sites? Does it find all your authority pages?
I agree with your points, and realize that PR is going to be used as the currency of links for quite awhile longer, just trying to help out the broader CAP community by shedding light on the fact that chasing PR is not the smartest way to go about link building. PR is a complete black box and can clearly be manipulated, OSE may not be 100% open, but it is far from a black box, as you can see every backlink they are using to generate a PA score and you can look at those links and see what makes up their PA score. For the savvy SEOers out there, this is clearly much more useful than PR.
The tool seems pretty reliable when I look at my own pages. The one’s that are ranking receive the highest scores and the one’s that aren’t ranking receive the lower scores. I’ve also noticed in looking around at other sites that the scores do match up fairly well with the rankings that sites are receiving. IMO OSE is heads and shoulders above PR in determining the quality of a link.
