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[Anonymous]

Hi all

I’ve been getting a bit bored doing link exchanges recently so i’ve come up with a cunning plan to develop an automated IBL generator, but i need some feedback before i start. I know of things like Links Manager but aside from cost, they seem to have a number of pitfalls and estrictions and suit “reciprocal” linking best, which is of limited appeal to me.

My idea here is that a gambling webmaster adds their site to this system, uploads the PHP code i provide and thus no longer needs to maintain links…they will grow automatically both incoming and outgoing.

I’ll try and keep the tech bit simple. (I’ve created a very basic test version incidentally so I know it;s practical). Its a question of whether it’s too complicated in terms of linking criteria (see below) and if its going to be popular enough to warrant the work. Here’s the basics of how i see it working first:

1) You (and hopefully others) sign up your sites
2) You get from me a PHP “plugin” to go into your site on your links page which creates OBLs automatically
3) The plugin displays half the sites who sign up as OBLs w/descriptions via an RSS feed (which the plugin above reads)
4) The other half of sites that sign up link in to you (there’s your IBLs)
5) Each time a new site signs up, the RSS feed for your site updates automatically
6) Every new 30 links or so, the plugin creates a new additional link page on your site, linking it from the previous
7) You get a PHP snippet for your index.php page that shows the links to each “links” page

Now here’s the dilemmas i need your comments on:

1) is it a useful idea?
2) should the links be categorised?
3) is Pagerank important (ie: do i need to create an auto-pagerank checker)
OR
4) should each site get a manual ranking from me when it’s added to ensure its from a safe neighbourhood
5) what criteria should be applied to determine whether a page is a suitable link partner.

If I do this, I want to automate as much as possible. I thought about adding up PageRank and spreading it fairly on outbounds/inbounds IE: the total PR of your outbounds will be roughly the same as the PR of your inbounds.

All thoughts appreciated.

Cheers

Simmo!

[Anonymous]

Can you move this post back to the general forum whoever moved it here as half the target audience for these questions are people who don’t look for link exchanges currently.

Thanks

Simmo!

[Anonymous]

i think that incorporating page rank is good. will this still work if your front page is index.html?

[Anonymous]

AceKicker wrote:

i think that incorporating page rank is good. will this still work if your front page is index.html?

It will as long as your server can handle PHP on other pages. It will however mean you’ll need to add a manual link from the index to the links pages. PHP would be a much better option for your front page if possible.

[Anonymous]

Afterthought:

Thinking about this in my sleep last night, it occurred to me that the most major issue is the quality of sites participating. Obviously we dont want scrapers or banner farms in here, and site sthat are little more than lists of copied reviews and bonuses should probably be discouraged. However, volume of sites is quite important to maximise the benefit. Probably want 100 or more sites at least to make it a worthwhile piece of technology.

I’d appreciate thoughts on this too:

Some ideas for this to bat around:

1) A manual inclusion check
2) Sites from people who are active on CAP/GPWA forums
3) A minimum PR level for inclusion
4) A manual (and hidden) extra ranking based on quality and PR
5) Some sort of nomination for inclusion system

Feel free to add your thoughts on one or more of the above – or other ideas.

Simmo!

[Anonymous]

I think it could be a very useful tool for those who don’t use any cms on their sites.

I think the manual check is very useful and very important because of filtering off the bad sites and when you want control about your links (a bad neighbourhood could be very bad for the rankings..)they are just stealing your PR.

I am curious about this tool, can I try it somewhere or it is just in the dream phase right now?

[Anonymous]

sipka wrote:

I am curious about this tool, can I try it somewhere or it is just in the dream phase right now?

Hmm Dream Phase really. I played around with setting up an RSS links feed and parsing it into web pages to check it would all work and it works fine. But the real hard work is in the link-matching area: no point in developing that until i know there is demand.

[vladcizsol]

There is definately demand for an automated link system, but Simmo! there are quite a few on the market and you will have to build a better mousetrap in order to make this a successful application.

I recommend you study the feature set that this product offers as a bench mark minimum and add additional capabilities from there:

http://www.reciprocalmanager.com

If you can encompass all that that one offers and make it a server resident software solution I will buy it and I am sure MANY will.

[Anonymous]

Professor wrote:

There is definately demand for an automated link system, but Simmo! there are quite a few on the market and you will have to build a better mousetrap in order to make this a successful application.

I recommend you study the feature set that this product offers as a bench mark minimum and add additional capabilities from there:

http://www.reciprocalmanager.com

If you can encompass all that that one offers and make it a server resident software solution I will buy it and I am sure MANY will.

Thanks for that Prof. The link above states:

# First, there’s the incredibly tedious nature of constantly updating and uploading your reciprocal links pages. Who has time to do this?

# You have to make sure your link partners actually set up a link to your site. Once you have dozens — or even hundreds — of link partners, this becomes a very difficult task.

# Then, you have to monitor whether your link partners are still linking back to you or not (sometimes, believe it or not, people will give you a link just to get one from you… and then, when you’re “not looking”, take your link down!).

# And you have to search through ALL of the links on your reciprocal links pages when only one of them needs to be modified.

The system i have in mind handles all of that, plus it automates PR matching, plus it is designed not as a Reciprocal link manager but an Inbound Link Manager. The fundamental difference being that links to you are one-way, links from you are one-way, all to different sets of sites.

Because of the “plugin” nature of what i am proposing, the links will always be present as they are read from a central server via an RSS feed which is dynamically updated on a per-site basis – a feed per site effectively – each time a new site comes onboard.

By “automated”, i mean “totally automated” in that beyond registering a site and the initial set up of the plugin code, the affiliates will have nothing else to do, and the links in and out grow dynamically. Additionally, I’d like to program it so the affiliate can input more than one link title so there is variance in their inbound links.

The programming complexity comes in the matching of sites so that each site links out to a roughly proportionate number of those linking in. Obviously this requires some database matching to distribute the links fairly, hopefully partially based on PR and quality factors using a Google developer API.

Cheers,

Simmo!

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