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Ryan wrote:Spearmaster,
I find it interesting that you think anybody on the planet would believe somebody just got fedup making millions of dollars and that’s the reason integrity sold. I also find it interesting that you feel confident that you know what happened over somebody who is a manager at the company that purchased them.
Not smart, Ryan. Being a manager at the company does NOT mean that you know more than I do, since my information comes directly from the horses’ mouth. :slapface:
I’ll keep in mind that you’ve only been there a while. But I am not just an ordinary affiliate.
Now – please remap my affiliates back to me.
I have to admit it is a slap in the face the whole subaffiliate situation. This month I earned $3 off subs.
This is how many subs i had at integrity casinos and I would often earn over 1k a month from them (at 2%)
level 1: 191
level 2: 834
level 3: 701I can understand the level 2 and above being gone but I am not being correctly compensated for any of the 191 level 1 subs. Are you telling me all of these affiliates had existing casino reward accounts?
I was going to say something about how I know there were bigger losses than mine, since my own personal affiliate numbers look like this:
Total Affiliates
Level 1: 28
Level 2: 61
Level 3: 43
Level 4: 3generating a few hundred dollars a month for me, amazingly enough my best sub-aff revenue generator.
I don’t really care about a few hundred bucks. I do care, however, for the integrity of the business and its owners, and by extension for those other affiliates/businesses that don’t or won’t speak up for their own reasons.
Casino Rewards has the best commissions available at 35%, let’s not get this wrong – but that still does not give you the right to arbitrarily take away the income I rightfully earned by signing up new affiliates for the old program. I am sure Antoine and others will feel the same way.
Spearmaster wrote:Not smart, Ryan. Being a manager at the company does NOT mean that you know more than I do, since my information comes directly from the horses’ mouth. :slapface:I’ll keep in mind that you’ve only been there a while. But I am not just an ordinary affiliate.
Now – please remap my affiliates back to me.
Spearmaster,
All I said was that I found it interesting. Certainly nothing that would warrant a slap in the face as your little icon would imply… I guess everybody handles their business in varying degrees of professionalism.
RE: Sub Affiliates
Obviously, we want to continue to work with everybody who has joined us due to the merge. I think the overall transition has gone very well. To my knowledge the only bumpy issue has been this sub affiliate conundrum. I agree that in an ideal world we could keep both affiliate structures in place. As I think I have explained more than once in the past few weeks, unfortunately we are bound by the limitations of our system which we are integrating into. To that end, the CR sub affiliate structure takes priority as we cannot remove credit from existing affiliates.
That said, I am totally open to any ideas/concepts/theories regarding a way we can handle this to satisfy everybody. I want everybody to be happy about their accounts with us, see the benefits of the merger, and continue to work with us over the long term. We value EVERY single affiliate we have (large or small) and the last thing we want is people thinking they are being treated unfairly. So, as long as everybody knows I’m totally open to a solution that works and understands if we had a way, we would. I think then everybody can understand the mentality behind how this is being dealt with.
Hi Antoine,
re: 191 level 1’s
I will check on that now.
Antoine,
Where are you getting your numbers from? Specifically the 191?
Ryan wrote:Spearmaster,All I said was that I found it interesting. Certainly nothing that would warrant a slap in the face as your little icon would imply… I guess everybody handles their business in varying degrees of professionalism.
Considering the implications in your post, I should think that you may want to consider why I would be stupid enough to challenge you if I wasn’t sure I was right. And the slap emoticon is supposed to be funny… but the fact that you seem to have taken it seriously does imply that you are not comfortable with the situation.
Everyone here knows that I am looking out for their best interests, so professionalism probably isn’t going to be a big issue. I would, however, suggest you reexamine why you made a claim about rescuing a “troubled” operation in order to make it appear as if you’re the knight in shining armor.
Nevertheless, the fact that you claim you cannot integrate the correct data into your system is not acceptable. You can either find a way to integrate it properly, or else keep the old statistics and website for the purposes of calculating sub-tier commissions.
To unilaterally and arbitraily change my income for the work I have done is simply not going to be acceptable, not just for me but for other webmasters. If you cannot come up with a solution then I will simply take this to a higher level to get it resolved.
Yes, I may have a hard tone, and I do play hard ball – but I am ultimately fair in my dealings with both operators and affiliates and players and I might add that I have staunchly defended Casino Rewards under many circumstances before your time. Ask around your office, and they might tell you that I’m an asshole (and I can be) but that I am also fair.
From the integrity casinos old stats information for the username enigmaticus
Look at traffic stats and then historical information.
Spearmaster,
Fair enough, I did interpret your slap as far from funny – if you meant it as a joke, we’ll chalk it up to that and leave it alone. Yes, everybody knows you here, and no … nobody thinks you are an asshole. Of course I’m going to take a public slap in the face seriously. In my opinion the tone of your email is not that of a joking tone, so I think many would agree that it does not appear to be a joke.
As for the previous owners’ situation: I’m sorry, but I just don’t believe that they stopped paying affiliates and locked all the player accounts because they just got fed up. I think we all know about the blast of bonus whores they got hit by. I don’t think you are lying to me, I have no question that you got on the phone and spoke with them directly and that you were told what you are saying.
I’m also not speaking about the personal wealth of the previous owners and I honestly have no idea about that. I can only comment on the fact that you guys were not being paid (both affiliates and players – I call this a troubled casino – hence my original comment that started this dialogue) until we purchased the company and paid everybody. You can call us knights in shining armor if you want, I did not say that.
As for the sub affiliate mapping situation: This is not a call that I have made personally. This is a decision made at the top that I am simply passing along to you. Obviously, such a call would come from somebody who has been with the company much longer than myself, who has a full understanding of the architecture of our systems and therefore understands the scope of its ability and conversely its limitations.
Ryan wrote:Obviously, such a call would come from somebody who has been with the company much longer than myself, who has a full understanding of the architecture of our systems and therefore understands the scope of its ability and conversely its limitations.Ryan
I think a found a solution for everyone here. Hire this guy http://www.nerdsrus.com/
he can fix the Internet.OK on the serious side this isn’t brain surgery or Rocket science Spear pointed out an easy fix keep the old system.
But that brings up an interesting question
Do you have in house qualified people to do your nerd stuff ? (OK a loaded question)This kind of stuff is done every day
Brad
Casino Rewards has some very sharp techs in their offices. There is no question they can implement the changes that are necessary to properly map the affiliates.
I will talk to some of them soon as I can.
Meanwhile, to cap all of this, compared with all of the other recent changes taking place at other groups, I wish to reiterate that:
1. Casino Rewards pays affiliates on a PER CASINO basis
2. The minimum percentage is 35%
3. At least you know you will see Ryan paying close attention hereSo as long as they fix the affiliate mapping situation, this is the group you should pay more attention to because your returns will ultimately be better than most other places, especially those who have made changes recently.
BTW, Ryan, as for the horse, you’re looking at the wrong stable
Hi Brad,
That site is incredible! He is seriously committed to his well earned Nerd Status
I will pass the link around & more seriously the idea of modifying the system to allow for a more complicated structure. I will post when I have an answer.
Thanks for the input/suggestion.
Spearmaster wrote:1. Casino Rewards pays affiliates on a PER CASINO basis
2. The minimum percentage is 35%
3. At least you know you will see Ryan paying close attention here
This has caught my eye also and when I get back from Miami I will be keeping it in mind as I switch out some casinos.
