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March 10, 2010 at 1:43 pm #620903Sonja C.Member
Very strange and sudden news in Estonia:
All ISP providers got a letter in which they are forced to block the following list of casinos starting from 15’th of March (5 days from today) so basically people in Estonia are not going to be able to play in them.
Among the casinos in the list are Unibet, Triobet and basically all the casinos that are popular in Estonia.I talked with some people in Unibet and seems like nobody really knows what is going on and what is going to happen.
I’d like to mention that there is one casino that will continue to operate in Estonia, this casino is “Olympic Casino” (Estonian based casino that just recently got online). This casino is currently not offering affiliation deal. and it makes perfect seance why, because there is no need to pay to affiliates to promote a casino that is the only place where people can actually play in. in other words: A monopoly on the Estonian online casino market is going to start 5 days from now.
This is from the letter that was sent to the ISP’s (that includes the domains that are going to be blocked)
March 12, 2010 at 9:18 am #808967pokern.plMemberHi,
I have received some feedback from our legal department and their point of view.
The new law entered into force in January 2009, and the provision related to online gambling the 1st January 2010.
Gaming operators need to ask a licence if they want to continue their activities in Estonia.
Operators without a licence issued by the Estonian Tax and Customer Board will be considered as illegal even if they are duly licenced in other EU Member States. ISP/PSP blocking measures and penal disposition shall apply to these operators.
It’s our opinion(and EGBA) that the law, in several aspects, does not comply with EU law and imposes restrictive measures on remote gambling operators, which are not justified by overriding reasons of general interest, as required by EU law. Even if the restrictions were to pursue overriding reasons of general interest, the restrictive measures imposed by the EGA do not pass the four-step test of necessity, proportionality, consistency and non-discrimination developed by the European Court of Justice.
We believe that consumer choice and technology will make legal restrictions unsustainable and ineffective, and still think that the Art 56 (ex-49) related to the free trade and free choice in the EU, prevails on national law.
All the best,
GustavMarch 14, 2010 at 2:06 pm #808994Sonja C.Member@GustavLipcsey 217136 wrote:
Hi,
We believe that consumer choice and technology will make legal restrictions unsustainable and ineffective, and still think that the Art 56 (ex-49) related to the free trade and free choice in the EU, prevails on national law.
Gustav
if you think that casino players know how to use a proxy that you are sadly mistaking
also I can tell you that Estonia is a very efficient country when it comes to implementing technology when it comes to implementing the law.
Estonia is the Baltic IT tiger, it’s a country that makes its elections for parliament in the internet, this country will manage to find any technological way to implement its law and a proof to this you can see right here: the law passed only 3 months ago and already the technology is coming in order to implement it, other countries that don’t allow online gaming for many years still did not use technology to prevent players from playing (as far as I know) and certainly did not manage to do this 3 months after laws came.one thing that I want to ask you as a Unibet representative: I talked with Unibet people and asked what is going to happen since I needed to know this in advance because my income is coming from affiliating you.
the answer was that something like this will not happen and now I see that it does happen
so basically I wanted to tell you that I accuse you (Unibet) in giving me false information and because of this I am now in a big problem since I did not have time to prepare to find income from other sources -
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