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February 23, 2009 at 7:16 pm #615788AnonymousInactive
Hello CAP Members,
I’m sure many of you have seen the recent post made by the Professor (Louis Fabiano), which came as a shock to all of the staff and shareholders at CAP. It is a move out of sheer desperation to shift the blame over all of these years for heinous actions that were NEVER approved or favored by the rest of the CAP team. Many of the respectable industry leaders were waiting for this man to fall off the deep end and he finally did. Do not believe or fall for the lies.
We will soon be posting the REAL truth (surely you can understand the legal implications here of making emotional, hot-headed posts…which coincidentially enough you will not see anymore!). In the meahwhile, now that the Professor has been banned for his lies, expect to see a LOT of positive change here at CAP. I will post updates as soon as possible on both matters.
Thanks for your loyalty and understanding.
CAP
February 23, 2009 at 7:25 pm #795845AnonymousInactive@WarrenCAP 198347 wrote:
Hello CAP Members,
I’m sure many of you have seen the recent post made by the Professor (Louis Fabiano), which came as a shock to all of the staff and shareholders at CAP. It is a move out of sheer desperation to shift the blame over all of these years for heinous actions that were NEVER approved or favored by the rest of the CAP team. Many of the respectable industry leaders were waiting for this man to fall off the deep end and he finally did. Do not believe or fall for the lies.
We will soon be posting the REAL truth (surely you can understand the legal implications here of making emotional, hot-headed posts…which coincidentially enough you will not see anymore!). In the meahwhile, now that the Professor has been banned for his lies, expect to see a LOT of positive change here at CAP. I will post updates as soon as possible on both matters.
Thanks for your loyalty and understanding.
CAP
Hi Warren,
With all due respect I have to ask why the Professor is banned from making his side known if you are going to give your side? If you want folks to make up their own mind PLEASE let everyone speak or I see this whole thing as being unfair to Lou.
I hope that I’m still allowed to speak my mind as long as I do it in a respected manner because Lou is my personal friend and I want to see him given a chance to say his peace here at CAP and not at YouTube.
February 23, 2009 at 7:30 pm #795846AnonymousInactiveYou’re banning the person who started this website as well as the person who is a majority share holder of this website?
This makes no sense. I am not liking this at all.
February 23, 2009 at 7:32 pm #795848stevejMemberWarren,
If you don’t let Lou respond, you are going to look like the guilty party, not Lou.
And I am not on Lou’s side or yours. In fact this is my first post since the Cspike debacle. I am just saying that by banning the Professor you have unleashed a lot more drama on us. I got the email from Lou and it seems that there are some more sifting that needs to be done.
Here is the note that I believe we all got from Lou
Quote:Dear Certified Partners and CAP MembersIt is with my deepest regret that I must send the following information today as a warning to anyone contemplating working with Warren Jolly or who has been a certified partner of CAP. Please read the letter I received below my statement so you understand why I feel forced to act now. Prior to reading that let me state:
1. I am the founder of CAP and majority shareholder in Affiliate Media Inc. I owned CasinoAffiliatePrograms.com long before I ever met Warren Jolly.
2. When House Winnings failed as a master affiliate for Tradal I was approached by Warren Jolly and his partner at House Winnings and asked if I would allow them to help monetize CAP and handle sales. Prior to that we did NOT charge a fee for programs to be listed at CAP so there was little revenue coming in, but that wasnt my focus in creating this community.
3. Once I agreed to help out Warren and his partner, who were only 18th at the time and had no prior experience or degree, we formed Affiliate Programs Inc. which later became Affiliate Media Inc.
4. Warren Jolly was given a minority shareholder position and seat on the new company board. His task was to increase reveneus at CAP and join in the growth of that venture.
5. During the first few years with the new company Warren performed admirably and acted as a real asset to us and our industry. Unfortunately as time went on he become bolder and lesss receptive to any input regarding sales or operation of our retail division.
6. He has repeatedly boosted the certifications fees far beyond any level he was authorized too. I had asked that a maximum increase of 20% per year be honored and he agreed verbally then went on to charge whatever he felt the client would bear. This damaged many relationships we have or had with our certified partners. He stressed that we had every right to charge whatever he could get and to stay out of sales. I bit my lip and went on focusing on the things I enjoyed which were the community and member relations.
7. Last year Warren told me he wanted to open a poker room. I was opposed to the idea but he went ahead and signed a contract with a provider under a false name and informed me after the fact we were now in the poker business. He asked if I would manage the project and also handle a legitmate client that wanted to re-enter the casino business. I was hesitant, but was backed into a corner as we couldnt do these sort of things under the Affiliate Media banner as it would be a conflict of interest with what CAP did. That is why we formed Effective Media Group. I didnt see any workable alternative so I went along with Warren yet again. For this I owe everyone an apology. I should have put my foot down then and I didnt.
8. Moving forward its my intention to regain control of my comapny and to have Warren Jolly removed from any managemnt position within our company or restricted from doing any further damage to CAP or Affiliate Media Inc. When that occurs I will lower all certification fees to a more reasonable level and work towards repairing any damaged relationships we have with our present and former certified partners.
9. The staff at Affiliate Media is top notch and I do intend to retain everyone in their current postions. The only change I am seeking is to remove Warren Jolly from day to day management of our California Offices as I believe he has been mismanaging our affairs and has most likely been syphoning monies off without the knowledge of myslef or the other shareholder.
10. The event team and the publishing arm of CAP are also top notch performers and will be retained and remain unchanged.
10. Please read what I receievd via email today which has promted this action. Over the weekend Warren removed me from his skype contacts and phone mail and last week I was informed he was hiring an Admin named Greg to replace “The Professor” in managing the community and our forums so I have to act now to prevent this rogue from effectively stealing my own company:
From: Gambling Ananymous [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Warren JollyHello Lou,
I speak on behalf of many here – we as a group of affiliate managers are disatisfied with your business partner’s actions over the past number of years and we hope to see you stand your ground and continue managing cap.
You should be aware that he’s been taking money from a number of affiliate programs, for ‘consutling services’ and puting it into several of his personal/company bank accounts. We can provide more information if need be to assist you with your case.
We thought you should also know that your ‘so-called’ partner is going to announce stepping down from Effective Media this week, and he’s going to put the blame on the past months events on to you, including the cardspike fiasco.
The bottom line is that we will not allow warren to take over the cap business affairs.
February 23, 2009 at 7:35 pm #795850paoloMemberWho is a majority share holder of this website (or the company behind it)?
February 23, 2009 at 7:48 pm #795853AnonymousInactiveThis is the type of thing that can ruin this industry for ALL of us and needs to be addressed in a responsible manner. We are alread a target as an industry and don’t need this. We need to work it out. :hattip:
February 23, 2009 at 7:49 pm #795854AnonymousInactiveSince I am probably going to get banned anyway I might as well post this now.
I am no longer visiting or posting on this forum until Louis returns. I’ve enjoyed my membership here and all the people I’ve met here over the years, but the reason I came was for Louis, and that reason has now been removed.
This is my last post unless The Professor is unbanned an retains control of his own company.
February 23, 2009 at 7:49 pm #795856biggygMemberI think Warren has posted an official statement in the past which i cant find denying owning a poker room.Warren you are just as guilty as lou.Please Do no think either of you can claim to be innocent here .I am not sure who made the first move but CAP has been denying this story for months,sending out C &D LETTERS to everyone who came close to exposing the truth.I am sure things probably didn’t happen exactly as Lou stated but you are by no means an innocent party.If Lou still owns majority shares it is ridiculous for you to even think you can control this forum.This place is more a liability than an asset because of the events of last couple months.Now it seems nobody is in control and you have succeed in ruining what was the best forum on the internet.
February 23, 2009 at 7:53 pm #795857biggygMember@antoine 198359 wrote:
Since I am probably going to get banned anyway I might as well post this now.
I am no longer visiting or posting on this forum until Louis returns. I’ve enjoyed my membership here and all the people I’ve met here over the years, but the reason I came was for Louis, and that reason has now been removed.
This is my last post unless The Professor is unbanned an retains control of his own company.
I am sure if Lou does have majority ownership this is a temporary situation .Also I am not a lawyer but aren’t these guys American? Owning a gambling site ,living in USA ,who is the brains here anyway ?Iknwo affiliates afraid to take a check for 50 bux from a casino lol
February 23, 2009 at 7:55 pm #795858Vpoker_BrazilMemberYeah man, let the prof say his peace….Don’t censor, lets hear it.
February 23, 2009 at 8:03 pm #795860AnonymousInactiveI am withholding any judgements until all the facts are brought to light meaning there has been so much going around…I think we need to just take a deep breath and hear all the sides to the story.
February 23, 2009 at 8:14 pm #795861virtualMemberGentlemen,
With all due respect this type of behavior does nothing to help those (like ourselves) who pay good money to be well represented on your boards, not to mention the people who rely on the information posted here. Last Friday AffiliateGuardDog.com reported that both BestCasinoPartner.com and CasinoBlasters.com removed a hotly-debated term from their terms and conditions. There was no mention of this change on CAP. One can only assume that this infighting is taking much needed attention away from the business at hand. This is irresponsible to say the least and disrespectful to the community that has backed your efforts all these years. As self-proclaimed “watchdogs” for the affiliate and gambling community you have responsibilities here that go beyond soliciting support from your members. You have the opportunity to serve a very important purpose for operators and affiliates alike but your efforts to meet this goal appear to have gone woefully off-track in recent months. We strongly encourage you to clean up your act and focus instead on reclaiming the loyalty and trust of your members.
The BestCasinoPartner Team
February 23, 2009 at 8:18 pm #795863AnonymousInactiveThank you so much for your post! :hattip:
@BestCasinoPartner 198368 wrote:
Gentlemen,
With all due respect this type of behavior does nothing to help those (like ourselves) who pay good money to be well represented on your boards, not to mention the people who rely on the information posted here. Last Friday AffiliateGuardDog.com reported that both BestCasinoPartner.com and CasinoBlasters.com removed a hotly-debated term from their terms and conditions. There was no mention of this change on CAP. One can only assume that this infighting is taking much needed attention away from the business at hand. This is irresponsible to say the least and disrespectful to the community that has backed your efforts all these years. As self-proclaimed “watchdogs” for the affiliate and gambling community you have responsibilities here that go beyond soliciting support from your members. You have the opportunity to serve a very important purpose for operators and affiliates alike but your efforts to meet this goal appear to have gone woefully off-track in recent months. We strongly encourage you to clean up your act and focus instead on reclaiming the loyalty and trust of your members.
The BestCasinoPartner Team
February 23, 2009 at 8:26 pm #795864AnonymousInactive@BestCasinoPartner 198368 wrote:
Gentlemen,
With all due respect this type of behavior does nothing to help those (like ourselves) who pay good money to be well represented on your boards, not to mention the people who rely on the information posted here. Last Friday AffiliateGuardDog.com reported that both BestCasinoPartner.com and CasinoBlasters.com removed a hotly-debated term from their terms and conditions. There was no mention of this change on CAP. One can only assume that this infighting is taking much needed attention away from the business at hand. This is irresponsible to say the least and disrespectful to the community that has backed your efforts all these years. As self-proclaimed “watchdogs” for the affiliate and gambling community you have responsibilities here that go beyond soliciting support from your members. You have the opportunity to serve a very important purpose for operators and affiliates alike but your efforts to meet this goal appear to have gone woefully off-track in recent months. We strongly encourage you to clean up your act and focus instead on reclaiming the loyalty and trust of your members.
The BestCasinoPartner Team
I can assure you this will now be the main focus. I am not at the liberty to discuss anything further due to legal reasons.
February 23, 2009 at 8:35 pm #795867CatherineMemberGuys Rome is Burning and if you (CAP) dont do something soon to undo the many mistakes you have made especially in the past 2 months well Im sorry it’s going to be a bitter pill to swallow. You will destroy yourselves and take CAP with you. Mark my words be warned CAP will fail just like many companies that got to big to fast and thought they were untachable (above it all). It will happen if you dont do something to change the course of self discruction your on. Not everyone wants to see that happen but there are jackals to your left and vultures to your right just waiting to take your spot. Dont think for a second you have a indisrtuctable hold on your top postion as top dog in the affiliate world for online gaming. The end is near unless u guys step up and take serious action now. Dont let anyone tell you that you havnt been warned.
Paulie
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