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I heard on FAUX that homeless folks will be allowed to use park bences as an address. :tongue:
Homeless people cannot be denied the right to vote because the grate they sleep on doesn’t have an address, a federal magistrate has ruled.Edmund Sargus, a U.S. District Court judge for southern Ohio, on Monday ordered Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner not to reject provisional ballots that fail to list a building address on a provisional voting envelope.
Sargus also ordered Brunner not to reject provisional ballots because of poll worker error, “including failing to sign a provisional envelope.”
The Northeast Ohio Coalition for the Homeless had asked the court for a preliminary injunction dealing with issues affecting the homeless.
Cleveland attorney Subodh Chandra, who represents the coalition, told the court that a Cuyahoga County Board of Elections training and compliance officer said in an Oct. 21 deposition that his board did not plan to count ballots for homeless people who could not list a home address.
Yeah what a complete joke my state is turning into.. no wonder why its decaying as we speak. they just keep going broke even though I pay 8% state tax. Guess they are learning from California how to fall off the left side of the table.
@allfreechips 183459 wrote:
Yeah what a complete joke my state is turning into.. no wonder why its decaying as we speak. they just keep going broke even though I pay 8% state tax. Guess they are learning from California how to fall off the left side of the table.
8% – no wonder you sound like fox news.
here we’re voting to remove the 5.3% state tax. last time it received 45% of the vote.
problem is that money has got to made up somewhere so I would imagine increased property tax, water, etc..Well I remember when my buddy moved from detroit to seattle in late 80s. He told me how they had no income tax and how his license plates cost him $1200. mine in michigan, were we had a 4% sales tax, 4% income tax and my plates were $28 a year. Back then i earned about $20k a year, so my total state tax burden was about $1000, plus i got a renters credit that reduced them more. He had no job, was struggling to get a position in field and earned a few thousand. Sales tax and state fees, take advantage of the poorest in society, while income tax (especially a progressive like some states have) goes after the wealthiest.
So, you’re right, they’ll cut the sales tax then they’ll either cut the budget, or more likely raise/create other taxes to make up for it. Either way people won’t like the results. It’s shown in a repeated numbers of polls/studies, that people think they pay too much taxes and get too few services, whether tax and service levels are going up or down.
we have pretty high taxes..
5.75 sales tax (higher in cleveland)
8% state tax
1.8% Local tax
and my property tax is 5600/ year on a house I paid 205K for..all I need is 55% fed / self employment tax combo to move me off shore
So in the end I can be paying 68% tax then using the left over to pay my 5600 property tax. Then I get to get taxed 5.75% on everything I spend it on. Oh and now it looks like the money I put into my 401K will be taxed and capped at 3% growth..
sounds like fun no?
@allfreechips 183504 wrote:
we have pretty high taxes..
5.75 sales tax (higher in cleveland)
8% state tax
1.8% Local tax
and my property tax is 5600/ year on a house I paid 205K for..all I need is 55% fed / self employment tax combo to move me off shore
So in the end I can be paying 68% tax then using the left over to pay my 5600 property tax. Then I get to get taxed 5.75% on everything I spend it on. Oh and now it looks like the money I put into my 401K will be taxed and capped at 3% growth..
sounds like fun no?
Aren’t you leaving out any deductions that would reveal your true tax liability? ie.. No personal exemption for the state income tax? etc..
@allfreechips 183504 wrote:
we have pretty high taxes..
5.75 sales tax (higher in cleveland)
8% state tax
1.8% Local tax
and my property tax is 5600/ year on a house I paid 205K for..all I need is 55% fed / self employment tax combo to move me off shore
So in the end I can be paying 68% tax then using the left over to pay my 5600 property tax. Then I get to get taxed 5.75% on everything I spend it on. Oh and now it looks like the money I put into my 401K will be taxed and capped at 3% growth..
sounds like fun no?
That is pretty much the situation that I’m in as it relates to the house and state tax amount here in Denver, but I’m definately not in that 55% tax bracket as I have a CPA and don’t really ask questions, but that seems to be out of line so I better go check my forms. hehe
I also wanted to add that I’m not so sure that having an offshore account is a benefit and could be a huge red flag. I’ve looked into it and almost did it in the Dominican Republic, but decided to just bite the bullet and pay the piper and feel safe. I’m not the type to play with my freedom and risk going to jail.
I have a feeling that since the US is broke, the IRS will be a “pitbull in lipstick” to get paid. :roflmao:
Well Chips, if you think you pay too much tax for what you get back and you don’t have a lot of family ties, you should look into the caribbean. Reside and have the business there. It won’t let you off US income tax, but you’ll skip state, local and employment related tasks.
when i came to canada the lawyer asked why didn’t move to bahamas and pay 10% in taxes. I might have, but have kids and family around here.
I’m not saying “love it leave it”, just that if you are seriously considering it, definitely look into numbers and see it really does make sense.
Now for us in Ontario, my effective tax rate is about 50% higher than US. we were paying $900 a month (in 2006) for medical insurance that is included in those taxes. My kid’s in a school where her class size is 15-20 kids and not 25-30 like in michigan, though this is due to a local quirk, rather than the system. So we feel it’s a decent trade off.
No thats what I mean about moving, not my account my family lol.. Wife is getting more and more used to the idea.
deductions are deductions, you just dont pay tax on the allowed amount, its not like you get that much off.. and no right now Im not that high of a rate but if all goes bad I will be come next year.
the hit over 150K now will hurt and the hit over 250K will hurt worse.
