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May 13, 2007 at 8:07 am #602648AnonymousGuest
Hi all.
referback. I realize this isn’t a landfall but consider the ratios.
• You have acquired 171 visits and 14 downloads so far this month.
• You have a total of 0 Belle Rock Entertainment casino customer(s).
• You have a total of 0 Belle Rock Entertainment poker customer(s).
• Your current commission due is $8.00would you consider this reason to drop them?
I’m in serious consideration of this.
May 13, 2007 at 8:11 am #736615AnonymousInactiveI wouldn’t. The month isn’t up and there are always bad patches with any program.
May 13, 2007 at 9:01 am #736616AnonymousInactivereferback. I realize this isn’t a landfall but consider the ratios.
As far as ratio’s go, keep in mind that you can’t get a NEW Belle Rock Gaming player unless they’re new to the entire Belle Rock group, not just a particuliar casino or poker site you have a link for. You knew that already probably. But that seems to make things a lot more difficult for me beings Belle Rock has been around as long as they have.
May 13, 2007 at 12:21 pm #736628vladcizsolMember0 customers = O commission.
That being said I also have a hard time generating new depositors there because they have been around since dinosaurs walked the earth and a very large percentage of players online already have an account there. The other issue is that they maintain a single player account for all properties so even if you refer a “new” player to Lucky Nugget if they already had a Riverbelle account then you arent credited for the new activity.
Referback is a QUALITY outfit, certainly one of the best of the MGS operators which means they are at the top of the mountain in online gaming. I have done really well with them over the years and they are an a++ in my book. But if you arent making money with them BB1 then you SHOULD remove them from your pages. This is a business and if you cant put bread on the table through the partnership there is no use wasting your traffic.
May 13, 2007 at 1:16 pm #736635AnonymousInactivethey are not converting for me either.
My Quick Summary
• You have acquired 379 visits and 41 downloads so far this month.
• You have a total of 1 Belle Rock Entertainment casino customer(s).May 13, 2007 at 1:53 pm #736637AnonymousInactiveMy Quick Summary
• You have acquired 379 visits and 41 downloads so far this month.
• You have a total of 1 Belle Rock Entertainment casino customer(s).I am looking at similar stats. But each signed up player values to much more than the average casino. It seems that the few who sign up have a great time there (mostly Riverbelle).
I think depositing methods (i.e. lack of) could be the problem. And now that they do not accept MC any longer, it could get even worse…
May 13, 2007 at 1:56 pm #736638AnonymousInactiveyes, i had a -$1000 credited to my account near the end of April. Ouch. The way it is going, it is going to take years to work it off – $716 at the moment!
They have gone off a little lately, but like 888casino and its earlier entercasino, so much traffic was just pushing a player back to someone else’s affiliate account, or to nobody’s if the original referring affiliate had had a CPA deal.
BBS, if it is not working for you, then dump it, the fact you asked the question… I think you know the answer.
May 13, 2007 at 3:39 pm #736641biggygMemberI have same issues with them and i didnt know about this one acct business.So am i reading this right ,if somebody signs up on my website for a casino and they already have a player acct then it all goes into one and i will not see commission?I hope that is just a dumb blond moment or lack of caffine and I read it wrong !
May 13, 2007 at 3:47 pm #736642AnonymousInactivecasinobonusguy wrote:I have same issues with them and i didnt know about this one acct business.So am i reading this right ,if somebody signs up on my website for a casino and they already have a player acct then it all goes into one and i will not see commission?I hope that is just a dumb blond moment or lack of caffine and I read it wrong !I read it the same way you did. Shame on me for not knowing this.
May 13, 2007 at 4:34 pm #736643biggygMemberwell I love you all at CAP but not working my ass off to give somebody else commission on my site lol.Guess I will be having talk to referback tomorrow.
May 13, 2007 at 4:35 pm #736644AnonymousInactiveYea, I always thought their way of doing business was horse shit. Its like me buying a mustang from John up at Altimonte Ford, but them telling him he earns no commission on the sale because I bought a Ford Focus from his co-worker Brian last year, while John was the one who sold me on the car. Its a bullshit term, of course the veterans don’t complain because they get paid on my visitors that I sell on a casino because they already have them locked in. It’s garbage, and I will never do business with this company. Why would I ever send my visitors to a casino that even if they sign up and deposit, I still don’t get paid. How gay. I see it just like a monopoly and we all know those are not good for business. Aside from this retarded way of doing business, they are probably a solid outfit. But it’s always the same thing BB1, don’t be too hasty just because of one off month, but if you get a couple of back to back months where they don’t perform, take em down. P.S. Did you get my last pm?
May 13, 2007 at 4:58 pm #736646AnonymousInactiveIf you are in it for the long run the referback system rocks.
Yes, a percentage of players any of us send (oldtimers not excepted, oldtimers send new players too!) are already in someone else’s account.
But in the long run, you build up a player base better than anywhere else, and unless you plan to exit the business after a few months, the biggest favor you can do yourself is to build a playerbase.
Referback conducted a vote some time ago and let us affiliates decide about this clause, and the votes were for the current system by miles.
If I could, I would only list programs that do this. Unfortunately this is the only one.
They are honest, stable and reliable.
That said, you do need to go by your bottom line. If you know that others do better by you, by all means promote those that do well. Programs don’t perform the same on different sites.
Performance also changes over both the long run and the short run. I can have a bad streak with a program for a few months – if the past performance has been good, I will sit it out.
Also programs that did nothing for me a year ago may perform well today, so periodically I cycle them through again.
And, a certain promotion may work for your players, and the next type of promotion may not. Programs change promotions frequently. If your revenue drops, check what you are promoting and check back with the program to see if they have a casino with a promotion that suits you better.
May 13, 2007 at 5:36 pm #736649AnonymousInactiveIf I got in on the ground floor of this pyramid I would have probably voted yes to keep the current scheme too lol.
May 13, 2007 at 5:41 pm #736650AnonymousInactiveReferback was one the first lessons i got from this market. It got overpromoted and to new webmasters should be a hard task to earn some money there.
I was sendind a lot of traffic to their sites but no much $$$ back. So, two years ago, i changed their links and things started to improve.
Like professor said, they are online since the early “golden days” of gambling and those guys who sent players to their casinos are enjoying a nice cheque from OUR traffic.
Do you remember when gambling ads were accept in Google and Yahoo? Around 90% of them had links to RB casinos/poker rooms. So, for the USA traffic i think there’s no room for those who started late.
For me, it was the right thing to do. Others can perform better with RB.
They are a great group, but it’s business.
May 13, 2007 at 7:23 pm #736654CatherineMemberWhy bother promoting any program that well is not 100% on the up and up. There must be programs out there that are smart enough to see the value of long term thinking and not f ing with affiliates,seriously do they think were f ing stupid. Unreal
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