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Hi all,
Dom, tell me something I didn’t know
ever hear of a program called carnivore .. or some shit like that?
I would imagine anything we pass over the net ….. quite possibly the phone lines … is being monitored for certain keywords …
what’s scary ….. is how far are they willing to go with this in respect to issues NOT related to terrorist activity?
That’s the really scary part. You’ve got to figure our gov has been doing this shit almost from the beginning … or as soon as they had the technology anyhow.
What scares me is when/if they start using it for other means .. of which there are many … to categorize us and perhaps use that info against us at any given time.
Take for instance anything that might be embarrassing but not really prosecutable … it could easily be manipulated to achieve goals that in the past could never have been achieved.
This is just such an infringement on privacy – email pretty much replaces mail these days – and what happened to all the laws protecting the privacy of mail?
It’s most disturbing.
Dominique wrote:This is just such an infringement on privacyI heard on CNN or Fox news last evening that many local police agencies across the country have started keeping track of every individual who purchases cold medicines. I guess drug dealers use them to make meth.
So if you buy this stuff all of your private information is being poked and prodded by the cops every day. :whatsthat Those cameras in our homes cant be too far off.
I’ll agree that this is no surprise and it’s been going on for at least a decade.
Here’s a story from about 8 years ago well before the events of 9/11 …Even down here in NZ we have a “listening post” owned and operated by the US government to process voice and email data – its fairly well known and gets the occasional loopy protestor.
I tested this once (after reading an article in a local paper ) by sending an email between two of my private addresses that should not have been visable to anyone.
I used all the keywords – president – assasinate – bomb – bush – Tuesday (etc) in order to guarantee some sort of response … and at the end of the message offered my IT services on a consultancy basis if they were required.
:stirpot:Within 3 hours of sending it to my small recipiant site (http://www.thearmsfc.com – a website about a pub football team) I got 30 hits from a US government URL.
Coincidence? Maybe. But I’ve never seen traffic like that there again …
:lookarounOh – I never got a job offer though … B@st@rds !!
:wink-winkmany local police agencies across the country have started keeping track of every individual who purchases cold medicines. I guess drug dealers use them to make meth
funny it strikes me with all the spam that happens . ….. hell I admit I’ve ordered online stuff like valium .. but then I get a ton of spam about it that I know I didn’t ever have anything to do with …. that the any police agency could wade thru that BS when even I can’t …. and find the legit from the spam
not saying it can’t be done. But most local agencies don’t even have the funds to allow them to use the most up to date radar for speeders. I know this because I use a detector which tells me when its laser ..and when its stuff so old that …its literally ancient in terms of tech years
Your right about US Spying, and then getting spam mail that always seem to reflect what you were doing on the internet. For about one week, I was starting a Family Tree and looked up the SSN Database for my mother. She has been passed away since 1992, so it was in the SSN Death Index. Sure enough a couple of day later I received an email that was listed as coming from my Mom. The name in the sender address was the same name as my mom.
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have a good day, and long live the revolutionSure enough a couple of day later I received an email that was listed as coming from my Mom. The name in the sender address was the same name as my mom.
that surely makes one wonder just WHO is intercepting this mail?
is the gov selling this info?
what still to this day boggles my mind is that spammers can make an address look like it came from somewhere else.
send a man to the moon … well outerspace anyway … yet we can’t make sure an email shows the proper address from the proper sender without having to go thru the cloak and dagger routine.
It tells me that this is obviously NOT an issue that is a concern to the powers that be. If it was .. I think it would be one of the easier things to solve.
anytime a scam type situation arises ….. it should be a red flag easily spotted by email and then at the very least red flagged as not being sent from the original sender. maybe thats simplistic but I think it could be done nevertheless.
I mean how hard can it be? the sent from stays the same. no exceptions. the address sent to stays the same. no exceptions. how tough can it be?
TheGooner wrote:Within 3 hours of sending it to my small recipiant site (http://www.thearmsfc.com – a website about a pub football team) I got 30 hits from a US government URL.do you still have the log files?
stocktrader wrote:do you still have the log files?No. As I say this was BEFORE 911 …
