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I am curious with all the affiliate programs fighting to find ways to pay us, how are the casinos paying players?
If they dont find options for them quick, paying us will be a mute point. Without players we are dead in the water. :drunk2:
Yeah. They’re having problems themselves.
Way to, Neteller…:rasberry:
axl wrote:I am curious with all the affiliate programs fighting to find ways to pay us, how are the casinos paying players?If they dont find options for them quick, paying us will be a mute point. Without players we are dead in the water. :drunk2:
I think you are asking the wrong question.. The right question should be: Are players getting paid, and in a timely manner?
Look around. All the programs are now focusing on non US players with more promotions, offers, bonuses, languages etc.. Even the programs which still accept US players..
It’s getting harder to get US players to play. No onw knows when things will get better so everyone is getting ready for the worst..
The easiest way is to get paid using the same platform used for the deposit..
What do you think? Are they getting paid? I don’t think so:Cry:
Hi all,
this is something i’ve been saying for some time. Thanks A for bringing it up since I’ve felt my own concerns have been being set aside because everybody is worrying about themselves.
you are completely correct! if players aren’t getting paid it ain’t gonna matter squat about how or whether we get paid because there ain’t gonna be no money made to worry about commission.
worse yet, is while we as affs can wait (not because we can afford it, but because we realize or at least can be hopeful a means will be found).
THis is not the case with players. they”re already unsure. just give them a reason to lose confidence and all is lost.
This is why I have made such a bitch about checks! Its by far the best and surest way to get money to players and in a timely manner that doesn’t make them jump thru hoops in order to get paid.
ANd they don’t give a shit whether the check was written by john smith or casino x. as long as the check is equal to the amount they expected to be paid.
even if MGS pulls out of the market, the remaining casinos are going to have to have such a measure to insure the confidence remains high so players are not freaking out thinking they won’t get paid.
I hope many casinos, MGS, and/or all other softwares are seeing this and taking into consideration the absolute importance here on this issue.
I think if the question how are players getting paid is answered or not we will know the other questions you posed as well MD.
As bb1 understands the longer it takes to find a secure solution the smaller the chances of keeping players onboard over the long haul. Sure you will keep the addicted players and the bonus seekers since casinos will be bringing back new types of bonuses and offers just to try and survive, but I doubt many would welcome those type of players.
Players who are playing merely for entertainment will get tired of the hassle; they wont continue running around signing up at a different wallet every other week. They will look for other things to keep them entertained. If they have their money tied up in an online wallet and others follow suit, if casinos can not find a way to pay them now, I have a feeling many of them will remember and they will not return if and when a solution is found.
These are very trying times, and in my opinion they are very defining times that will shape the future of the industry. Sad thing is I dont seem to find many casinos openly concerned about the situation. Maybe somethings are going on behind the scenes I dont know about, but in my opinion thats the worse place to keep them behind the scenes.
The governement thinks they are protecting us from us, fact is they are driving the legitimate people out of the business and inviting in the crooked ones. At the end of the day things could very well end up a lot worse off; they have a history of screwing things up like that.
Funny this should be the first post I read while logging on tonight. I deposit $20 using my Visa debit card into Sun Vegas this evening. Went to withdraw $2000 and picked ACH as one of my options, filled in the info and continued playing.
Figured I would check with live chat just to make sure my withdrawal wouldn’t be held up and sure enough was informed that my only option for withdrawal as a US player is Click2Pay. Well that is just fine and dandy since I no longer have a Click2Pay account and at this point in time can’t apply.
So that is how US players are getting paid at Vegas Parter casinos. Maclen from customer support was very sympathetic, and I wouldn’t want his job right now. Perhaps these casinos need to hire more programmers to constantly update their software and banking interface to only allow US players to deposit with the same method they can withdraw. If they did that they could eliminate the backlog of customer support inquiries. Just had to vent!
Nauti Kitten wrote:sure enough was informed that my only option for withdrawal as a US player is Click2Pay.Sorry to hear that you are more or less SOL.
What I find disturbing about that is that the casino hadnt informed you as a US player that would be your only option ahead of time. The fact that they arent notifiying USA players about the true nature of the beast is very troubling for me. I guess they hope that the players will just play until they lose it all. :shaun:
axl wrote:Sorry to hear that you are more or less SOL.
What I find disturbing about that is that the casino hadnt informed you as a US player that would be your only option ahead of time. The fact that they arent notifiying USA players about the true nature of the beast is very troubling for me. I guess they hope that the players will just play until they lose it all. :shaun:
What really sucks is the the slots are playing really nice right now:bigsmile: It’s almost like win all you want, cuz you can’t get it out!
casinobonusguy wrote:what slots?LOLAll of the free spin and bonus ones got it up to 4K, not that it’s doing any good. Damn that is really frustrating.
Hi all,
Nauti I suggest you go ahead and cash out to C2Pay. at least you’ll have the satisfaction of knowing the money didn’t stay with vegas partner.I received an ACH or a wire tranfer in my checking account last night, I’m not sure which casino it came from, but the casinos that say they can’t use these methods are full of BS!
Nauti Kitten wrote:…I no longer have a Click2Pay account and at this point in time can’t apply. ..Steve,
She’s stuck there too. No C2P account anymore.
This is a very shortsighted approach. Treating US players this way will not help your bottom line, or long term business. All that gambling money will go somewhere.
Hi Am,
great to see your post. I know we started out (a long time ago) on a rough ground but have come to very much think very much of you. (wish now I’d given you a kiss when I had the chance instead of a just a hug at the risk of a getting a slap
).…….sigh. I hear what you’re saying. I am so very disappointed in these places that have made so much money and now not only have the gall to leave their loyal customers in such a position, but also to literally all but play the part of a low-down thief by taking such a lazy and uncaring stance towards those that supported them when at one time, it was very much a question of whether to trust them.
these people gave them the benefit of doubt, made these places what they are today … and now are being paid back in such a tacky fashion I have become so very disillusioned (probably spelled wrong, I’m really pissed right now) about these places that even if they pay out all they rightfully owe, still have made tons of money and yet are so readily willing to sell out those that made them what they are. It is literally making me sick and i don’t know how much more I can take.
I was raised better than that. Money is not the end all. There is such a thing as integrity (God bless that man for his efforts by the way as well as those affs willing to take the losses they will inevitably suffer in order to be honorable to those that made them a living). The whole thing is sickening to me and shows the shortsightedness of these programs which I promise, will suffer world-wide for the way they are treating US players. Its just a shame that it comes to this when there are ways, not so truly tough to accomplish: to avoid this sort of incredible stain on an industry that had so much to gain, offer, and make a respectible impact on the internet on the whole. Shame on them, though I know to people like that: it matter little what people think of them, or on their own self-respect.
anyhow Darlin’, good to see someone around who I also know has integrity towards more than the almightly dollar.
bb1webs wrote:Hi all,
Nauti I suggest you go ahead and cash out to C2Pay. at least you’ll have the satisfaction of knowing the money didn’t stay with vegas partner.That’s the problem I can’t cash out to Click2Pay, I don’t have an account there. And even if I did, the nightmares that I’ve been reading about the disappearing withdrawal button makes me feel that my money is safer with the casino at this point. I have initiated an ACH withdrawal because that was one of my MANY options in the banking interface. I’ll let them try to figure it out for now because afterall, I’m only out $20. I wonder how they handle chargebacks if they can’t credit your debit card for a withdrawal?sly.gif
I had posted in another thread that since Vegas Partner is able to pay their affiliates via check then perhaps the casino could transfer my winnings to my affiliate account and then they can cut me a check. What a brilliant idea. Of course they wouldn’t help a player who is not an affiliate.
