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I’m really beginning to wonder how far the government is willing to take this. So are affiliates of casino/poker websites who are US Citizens or even foreigners who reside in the U.S. the next target?
In one way I see this as a plain and simple, “No Way!!” However, knowing how this government has now become a worse tyranny that what the U.S. forefathers rebelled against, I can totally seeing affiliates branded as criminals.
Or is this all just alot of panic? Views, thoughts, opinions……
Honestly, I just started my latest poker site two weeks ago and am seriously thinking of just cashing my chips in now and selling it. Just wondering what’s going through the minds of other U.S. casino/poker affiliate website owners.
well i guess they can make us facilitators of a crime ,coaccomplice or whatever technical legal terms they want to use.
There really is alot of wonder with this. Another thing is, what about professional poker players who are sponsored and/or have a stake in an online poker website??
Are they going to start arresting Doyle Brunson, Phil Ivey, and others?
Like I said, alot of things to wonder about.
They could send a simple “aiding and abetting” letter to Doyle or Ivey or any pro. They know it would have nasty effect on the industry, and on poker itself. They know this. They do not do this because the Gov’t is already being nailed for what they have done to this industry, what they have done to Iraq, mistakes made ect. They are trying to put a huge crimp on the out flow of money. They know this will cause plenty of damage and give them a better stance. Poker is a favorite pastime. Guys like Doyle are heros. They don’t want to wipe out poker and they don’t want to make the citizens hate them more then they already do. They want to govern the industry and put money back into the system.
This business is so huge, it is just out of control. It is massive. The government get no money from it, and they have no control on it. They feel the need to hav some kind of control. They have gone very far. I really think they know their limits, and this is where they draw the line. They don’t need to cause problems in this area. If they arrested one of the pro’s they would cause an uproar they just don’t need. I am upset that they have pushed it as far as they have – and that is too far as it is.
Dan
If they start charging affiliates with aiding and abetting they might as well throw Larry Page and Sergey Bin in jail with us, no?
I seriously doubt any of that will happen… and here’s why:
Any Fed reading this:
I dare you to arrest me. Come on… do it.
You will never prove I am receiving tainted funds. You have no chance to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the money I received comes from a country where online gambling is illegal… just try.
No jury of my peers will stand by and send me to prison on the governments “strong suspicion” that the money I receive is tainted. Prove that my cash came from an American player and not a subject of her majesty!
And on top of that, it’s not illegal to play at online casinos in the US… so how are we facilitating any crime?
Uncle Sam can kiss my red, white, and blue ass. :kissass:
Integrity wrote:I You will never prove I am receiving tainted funds. You have no chance to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the money I received comes from a country where online gambling is illegal… just try.No jury of my peers will stand by and send me to prison on the governments “strong suspicion” that the money I receive is tainted. Prove that my cash came from an American player and not a subject of her majesty!
Youre missing the point. They dont need to prove anything. All they need to do is bleed you of your last dollar and/or run you out of the business, and in the process scare off as many other individuals like you as possible.
Its them that has the iron fist and they are not afraid to use it. The industry isnt fighting back, they are practically in the fetal position. I can hear those idiots in NY, “boy that was easy”, hell they will be sipping on some wine celebrating their victory while we scurry around hoping we get paid.
I wouldn’t rule it out. While I agree charges might not stick, they seem to be targetting “profile” individuals simply to make an example out of them if nothing else. They’ve seen the panic caused by simply by making an arrest. That gets the ball rolling. The industry takes it from there it seems. :blush:
My own view might be targetted but not prosecuted. Perhaps making life a little difficult for the U.S Gambling Webmaster.
greek39
Integrity wrote:I seriously doubt any of that will happen… and here’s why:Any Fed reading this:
I dare you to arrest me. Come on… do it.
You will never prove I am receiving tainted funds. You have no chance to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the money I received comes from a country where online gambling is illegal… just try.
No jury of my peers will stand by and send me to prison on the governments “strong suspicion” that the money I receive is tainted. Prove that my cash came from an American player and not a subject of her majesty!
And on top of that, it’s not illegal to play at online casinos in the US… so how are we facilitating any crime?
Uncle Sam can kiss my red, white, and blue ass. :kissass:
Rock on brother! But I also have to agree with Greek, I as an affiliate I don’t transfer funds to or from an online gambling establishment, I accept payments for advertising from an affiliate program. As a player, I should stand a better chance of being prosecuted as I have directly transfered funds to an online gambling establishment and I’d like to see them try to go after 75% of the adult population. Not going to happen :dafingers
Well if you received the email from Casino Partners, it seems USA affiliates might already have a target on their backs, placed there by predatory affiliate programs looking to get what they can out of USA at any and all cost, including ours. :cuss:
So the way that I see it is they can request from me that I disable my links to online gambling establisments, and if I obey their commands they are not going to pursue me further. No big deal, just one avenue that I can no longer venture. Fortunately for me I learned very early in life to not put all your eggs in one basket.:angel:
That response tells me that you’ve never found a really BIG basket that held a lot of golden eggs.
:roflmao:Integrity wrote:I
And on top of that, it’s not illegal to play at online casinos in the US… so how are we facilitating any crime?This is the real point
A lot of people and some casinos very confused about the real extent of the USA Congress bill.I 100% agree with Integrity. No crime having gambling links on your site, any commissions received are third party. We have debating this issue to a point of exhaustion.
greek39
