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Hello,
I don’t know whether this is the part of the forum intended fot his message but check this out:
I was looking for dutch competitors and found this site:
xhttp://www.casinoaffiliates.nl/everything is translated into dutch, so no real content scraping, but it is obviously copied from CAP.
He’s only having 8 visitors a day, but just wanted to let you know.
PJ
Good spot! That is so blatant its pathetic! Scraping is such a bad term for theft. We need a better word – “plagiarising” perhaps?
If we are looking for a simple, short word for ‘theft’, then we could perhaps use the word ‘theft’ itself
I mean… ‘plagiarising’:banger:
It’s a bless to be educated but their is no need to make things complicated heresigh.gifcasinoreports wrote:If we are looking for a simple, short word for ‘theft’, then we could perhaps use the word ‘theft’ itselfI mean… ‘plagiarising’:banger:
It’s a bless to be educated but their is no need to make things complicated heresigh.gifOoh “theft” ! Why didnt i think of that
Anyway…bit of detective work:
There are no affiliate links or subpages – looks like its been set up as a doorway page. However it links to three other sites. One of these is called “speltips.nl”. The whois info for that is identical to the “thefted” site (anonymous via ISP). So looks like the same guy.
So now go to xhttp://www.speltips.nl/casino.html and you get his affiliate links (oohhh, 888, how topical).
His(her) Casino Rewards Aff ID is “aff40611” and his 888 ID is “362229”, if that helps. There you go – couple of emails to the affiliate managers and they should xfer his earnings to you Prof
It also links to “gokkasten-pagina.nl” but this simply redirects to Cherry Games. However there is full Whois info incl. name (and different host) on that one so it may be separet, or it may tie in with what the Aff programs have as a name.
Cheers
Simmo!
I agree this is not scraping, we really need to be accurate in our descriptions and not confuse techniques.
I don’t speak dutch so I am not so sure it’s theft either; babelfish returned text that wasn’t an exact match. It look’s like the site may have been inspired by CAP, but after a quick glance I don’t see anything stolen, I didn’t look around though.
im investigating it
no hard proves yetResultaat voor speltips.nl
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Record onderhouden door NL Domain Registryhe is posting on this forum and living in Rotterdam
http://www.kansspelforum.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=5i know the owner of this forum, a good guy
Thanks all. :cheers:
We have reached him and he has promised to change the site. We will be watching him closely to ensure that happens.
axl wrote:I agree this is not scraping, we really need to be accurate in our descriptions and not confuse techniques.I don’t speak dutch so I am not so sure it’s theft either; babelfish returned text that wasn’t an exact match. It look’s like the site may have been inspired by CAP, but after a quick glance I don’t see anything stolen, I didn’t look around though.
allright, I did mess up the descriptions for the techniques apparently.
And because I was’nt really sure whether copying layouts is scraping (I’m a newbie..), I added the sentence “everything is translated into dutch, so no real content scraping, but it is obviously copied from CAP.”.
Just to let you know that I don’t want to call someone a scraper if he’s not.
However, I am surprised that you say: “It look’s like the site may have been inspired by CAP, but after a quick glance I don’t see anything stolen.”
Do you mean that it is “accepted” to copy a site’s layout, if you just change the content? Because to me the site looks quite a bit like CAP. There are probably a couple of things changed, but the ‘general first impression’ is the same.
But if it’s ‘legal’ or ‘ok’ to copy ans semi paste some one’s layout, then just tell me as I don’t know yet, I’ll take notice of it.
To me, it just seemed unethical, unfair, … you know.
Greetz,
PJ
Thats ok, I seen you had stated it wasnt really scraping, just wanted voice my opinion that we needed to be careful with that terminology.
Layouts/templates are a dime a dozen, unless its something ground breaking that is totally unique to just one site, I doubt a simple layout would be protected by copyright laws.
I had looked at the coding, it was different. Both used shades of greens, but the colors are different, the graphics were different. The logos are similar but not the same; heck look at CAPS spring break logo; it too was inspired by another very well known logo.
I do agree the webmaster could have done a better job choosing his layout and color scheme, but calling him a thief might be going a bit far, he is simply an idiot in my opinion.
axl wrote:…but calling him a thief might be going a bit far, he is simply an idiot in my opinion.:laugh: very good :laugh:
Reading this, at first made me think that I didn´t understand the concept of scraping. Turns out this isn´t a scrape. Just some fool being a tad too blatant in his “web design efforts”.
I don´t think the professor can expect any money from him though because he won´t have made any with this dump.
