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After what seemed like an eternity, I finally have recieved Pagerank of 5. I know it does not mean a lot in the grand scheme of SEO and the like, as while I had a PR of 0 I was #1 or#2 on a majority of the search engines for some pretty good terms. My question is more on the lines of selling links on home page, (and possibly other pages as well that are PR 4). Here is some notable info:
– I have a partner page, where all my outgoing links are located
– I have 1 partner link on my homepage now, and 1 casino link
– All other pages have 0 links besides the casino links.
Any ideas or suggestions as to how I should proceed would be greatly appreciated.
What does it all mean? I understand it is some measure of popularity in search engines, but how is it derived? I mean if you type my domain in google I come up 3rd, but that isn’t what I am going after. If you type in backgammon or backgammon articles I’m not on the first page.
I have a PR4 on my home page, but zeros on other pages. Does this mean if I link to someone from my home page it is worth more than from a page with a PR 0?
PR is a formula that Google created that shows the relative popularity of your site, basically the number and quality of links you have pointing to a page on your site determines your page’s PR. The reason PR and SERPs aren’t directly related is because every link is different. The site it comes from may or may not be related to your’s, might have a penalty against it, the link text may or may not have the keywords present in them that you are going for, etc. You will notice that most sites that are high in the SERPs do have a decent PR score, but the PR score is more of a measure of the work that went into getting links in the first place, and if you have a good linking strategy, you are rewarded with good SERPs. PR is more of a historical measure than anything.
In regards to your question, yes a PR5 site is worth more when you are selling links than a PR1 site would be, because if you have a site related to mine, then I would value that link, and there is some evidence that reciprocal links aren’t worth as much. So, buying a one-way link has value to many webmasters. What you decide to charge is up to you, though there are many link brokering sites out there that will give you an idea of what it might be worth.
Thanks for that very quick response. So it does matter which page I put my outbound link on? Or no so long as my site is ranked highly?
but …
what is happening at this moment?
some of my pages got a pr of 5 today
and they certainly do not deserve thatBig God Google seems to make pr a childs toy this way
its not related to search results anymore…….:confused:
I have a question. Say I have a site about Austrian Albino Hedgehogs, and I am the only person with such a site, so if you type that in a search engine I come up number 1. But I have very few inbound links and about 3 hits a year. Am I a PR1 or a PR 10? It seems to me it is much more important to be on that first page of search results than to have a high PR.
quad ed demonstrandum
elgoog wrote:quad ed demonstrandumUhm… does this mean you are going to demonstrate by putting up an Austrian Albino Hedgehogs site?
:woo-hoo:
Very droll.
I’ve actually found that PR makes almost no difference at all.
We’ve recently start putting up Poker and Casino pages that are all PR0 (we don’t chase for links to them at all) but they’re in the top 20 results at google for the search terms we targetted them for.
PR? I just don’t get it.
TheGooner wrote:We’ve recently start putting up Poker and Casino pages that are all PR0 (we don’t chase for links to them at all) but they’re in the top 20 results at google for the search terms we targetted them for.To what do you attribute this Paul? I thought inbound links was what it was all about? Is it keyword optimization?
If you have a site about Austrian Albino Hedgehogs you will be first in Google for “Austrian Albino Hedgehogs” the day Google learns you have a site. You wouldn’t need a single backlink, and PR wouldn’t matter.
Again, PR is a relative strength rating for a website. It doesn’t directly effect where you will rank, but in an extremely competitive industry like online gambling you better plan on having a PR4 or higher before you rank for competive terms. Ranking high for “echeck casinos” doesn’t take much, ranking high for “online casinos” will take a couple of years to achieve for a new site.
Gooner, you have a long-standing site, so any new pages you add will fare much better with Google since they have decided to trust you already. For those of us stuck in the sandbox it doesn’t really matter what we do, Google doesn’t yet trust us, so we are stuck at the bottom of the results.
One last point, the toolbar PR is not the real PR. Once Google finds a page on your site, it is assigned a PR score, and when they find a new link to your site, your PR score is affected immediately. Google only pushes out the PR score you see in the toolbar about every 3 months, but they work with the real PR score that is behind the scenes.
elgoog wrote:but …
what is happening at this moment?
some of my pages got a pr of 5 today
and they certainly do not deserve that
:I have found those unexpected PR’s in some new pages in old sites.
Quite unrelated with other pages.
Google rewarding fresh content maybe?.I got PR5 for a new site that missed the last PR update too.
It is quite strange, but G sxeems to have rewarded new internal pages of established sites with big PR boosts and forgotten about updating their homepages…
In the grand scheme of things i think it means nothing really…only that other people might be more eager to link to you and it may reflect positively in that manner.
But as regards SERPS it has no effect on its on.
BJF wrote:To what do you attribute this Paul? I thought inbound links was what it was all about? Is it keyword optimization?Certainly we’ve carefully thought out headings, keywords and content … but I’m amazed at how well we’ve done with quite competitive keywords.
Perhaps it is also because the site is old (5+years) and the pages are fresh content too?
I dunno – I expected it to be a battle to get them into the lists – but these days I seem to be able to get a fresh page (sometimes just 2-3 days old) into the top 30 results on google for a target sports betting term that might have 2-3 million results.
Weird?! Or maybe I’m just getting better at writing sports betting gumpf ?!
:shhh:Villa,
its a -2 month old- new domain
