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Hi
Is there anyway to determine if your site is most likely in the google sandbox?
Thanks
Buddy
1.check if ure site is in google
site:yourdomain2. check for popular keywords
3.check with long string with keywords from you site
4.how does pagerank look on your toolbar?
(be sure to have the google toolbar installed)4.how does pagerank look on your toolbar?
(be sure to have the google toolbar installed)This is a red herring. There is currently a site with 0 PR ranking in the top ten for several money terms!
Do not be blinded by Page Rank.
Regarding the sandbox, it can take anything from 3 months ( yes that short!! ) to 2 years to get out of it. Just keep on adding quality content and work on your linking campaign. One tip though, don’t turn your sites into linking farms to achieve this. I would keep link pages down to a minimum.
Hope this helps.
I check the Sandbox this way.
1) You must be getting links for the keywords you are optimizing for…as an example, let’s use “online casino”
2) Check your ranking on the Google data centers on a site like http://www.mcdar.net/q-check/datatool.asp by entering your site URL and the term “online casino” (without the quotes)
3) Next, using the same site enter “allinanchor:online casino” (again without the quotes).
4) Compare where you come up in the normal search and where you come up with the allinanchor search. If they are quite far apart then you are sandboxed for this term.
As an example, one of the keywords I optimize for brings our site up as number 16 allinanchor, but number 622 by typing in the term alone. Other terms we come up in the top 20 allinanchor and don’t show up in the top 1000 typing in the term.
You should also be aware that the sandbox keywords differently. If you try to optimize a site for a term with little competition (eg: “Click2Pay Poker Sites”) you won’t be subject to the sandbox, whereas optimizing for “Poker Rooms” will put you deep in the sandbox.
SEOmoz has an excellent methodology for determining if you’re in the sandbox too.
Randy wrote:SEOmoz has an excellent methodology for determining if you’re in the sandbox too.Yep, Randfish is an excellent seo!
Hi
Thanks again to elgoog, Webzcas, webber286 and Randy for some really useful information. Unfortunately I don’t appear anywhere in the top 1000for my keywords, and unless I’m being really stupid, can’t actually search google beyond the 1st 1000 entries.
I therefore can’t compare the allinanchor against the standard google search, and consequently can’t tell if I’m sand boxed. Not really sure what to do next? Maybe I need to be a little more patient……?
Thanks
Buddy
Guess you missed that bit in my reply. That means you are in the sandbox, either that or you don’t have any links for the keywords you are pursuing. We have several keywords where we show up as allinanchor, but not in the top 1000. I haven’t seen a way to check beyond 1000 results either. You can do a “search within these results” on Google to see if your site is at least included with your keyword search. However, Google won’t give you the position.
The google sandbox is not something that google admits exists.
The symptoms are simply not getting google traffic – except perhaps for very obscure phrases.
It is not related to page rank.
Virtually all new sites will find themselves sandboxed.
Sites targetting competitive keywords/phrases, such as gambling websites are much more likely to be sandboxed than, say, a site about “my pet frog”.The sandbox – which some SEO experts say doesn’t exist (yeah, right), lasts from 3 – 12 months on average. It’s primary purpose is to cut down on search engine spam.
From http://www.seochat.com :
Quote:The Google Sandbox is very similar to a new website being placed on probation, and kept lower than expected in searches, prior to being given full value for its incoming links and content.If you have a new website which is sandboxed, the best advice to follow is to continue adding original, relevent content and to gather incoming links from other quality websites. It may shorten the sandbox period, and even if it doesn’t, when the site comes out of the sandbox, it will do better in the serps.
