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August 30, 2004 at 12:51 pm #586204AnonymousInactive
Hi I’d like to report this affiliate for non-payment of the more than $1000 they owe me since May. Not one payment was sent in all the time I have been with them, including $800 from last month (july).
All emails are ignored, whether they be directly to casino project or to Joav Fischer – the affiliate manager who phoned me up specifically to ask that I feature his site on my portal. I have heard nothing from them.
Not only this but I have reported this on another webmaster forum and their emails were ignored also.
I hope as a last resort someone here can help me settle this dispute, but I also want to warn others about Casino Project.
Thanks.
August 30, 2004 at 2:38 pm #654116AnonymousInactiveI stopped promoting them some time ago and have lost my contact.
A few months ago some player stumbled to bethedealer through a textlink of mine someplace and played and I made just the amount required for payment.
They deducted some small amount to guard against chargebacks and now I will likely never get paid since I don’t promote them anymore.
Just one of the ways programs try to get more performance from us I guess.
If you find no resolution, I may have an email for the operators someplace…you can pm me for that.
I keep hearing about bethedealer problems lately. Players are complaining also. Bethedealer used to have a bad reputation, then redeemed itself and stayed clean for a couple of years.
Sounds like this is coming to an end.
August 30, 2004 at 2:53 pm #654117AnonymousInactiveYou might try one of these:
Miryana (at) BTDSUPPORT.COM
dona (at) BTDSUPPORT.COM
alon (at) BTDTech.com
gal (at) BTDSUPPORT.COMGood luck. These guys have always been last to pay me each month, with commissions arriving by check about two months after month-end. I stopped promoting them for that and other reasons a year or more ago.
September 2, 2004 at 3:37 pm #654275AnonymousInactiveWell there you have it.
I’ve emailed all the extra email addresses that some of you have been kind enough to forward to me but all to no avail. It has been my experience that this is a crooked operation with no regard for its affiliates whatsoever.
I would urge all of you who are promoting Be The Dealer and related Casino Project sites to stop your campaigns immediately, as I have heard from other webmasters that I am not the only one that they are screwing over right now.
When we act together we can stop cowboys like this from ruining the industry for the rest of us.
September 6, 2004 at 2:48 pm #654522AnonymousInactiveThey also conviently lose track of players that join under affiliates links.
Will be removing them from my site soon, once i get paid for last month.
September 6, 2004 at 3:15 pm #654523AnonymousInactiveI am having their last link removed presently.
I don’t think I’ll get paid anyway, and I am not sending any other players.
September 6, 2004 at 3:17 pm #654524AnonymousInactiveI remember this email ringing a bell for them. You can try it..
September 6, 2004 at 3:23 pm #654525AnonymousInactiveI used to talk to Matan a lot. He appears to have disappeared.
September 6, 2004 at 8:22 pm #654532AnonymousGuestHi
as I have stated before, in this situation the best way to get an answer is to send from an unknown email address and type into the subject line, “potential affiliate, or new affiliate” and then try and bring it off that you’re somebody else, that have talked to … yourself (enter your real name here) and that you like her stats and would be interested in throwing some traffic their way.
Include a cut and paste of your best same-software casino stats from last month, 2 program stats are even better,
and say that your sure you can produce for them as well. *note- don’t send them copies of your stats from that place, choose a different program’s stats
but the last time you talked to … yourself (your name here) that there was an issue of late payments.
That you want to be assured your payments will be on time and that you will be checking with … yourself (your name here) at the conference in Oct to see if that has been cleared up.
Hell I’ll do it for you if you PM me your name
they been after me for years to promote them is the only problem with me doing it.
I’ve always turned them down flat and if they were to put 2 + 2 together, (and I know I would) then they’d likely smell a rat.
a big fat one named bb1.
so you might be better pulling this off with someone else, or by yourself. (no name here)
be glad to help in any way though. let me know if I can be of service.
S.
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go ahead and yank their links btw since nothing else has worked. They might decide to pay you for that reason added on to the above.
in any case, you owe it to your surfers (not too mention yourself if you want to survive more than 6 months) to not list shithole casinos like this one has proven to be.
September 7, 2004 at 6:31 pm #654568AnonymousInactiveWhat is the URL of the YBTDealer casino you are talking about
September 7, 2004 at 9:10 pm #654585AnonymousGuestHi Jim/Phyllis and welcome to CAP
September 7, 2004 at 9:21 pm #654586AnonymousInactive:bigsmile: Thanks Steve… I didn’t think we were EVER going to get activated…. but we’re here now – and full of questions. Appreciate your help….
PhyllisSeptember 21, 2004 at 11:25 pm #655280AnonymousInactiveI logged into my affiliate account again today to see if it was terminated – just checked my stats out of curiosity and saw that I was owed another $600 for this month – I’d forgotten to remove all my links to these scammers!!
Be warned everyone – make sure all your links to these evil people are removed, and if you know someone who promotes them, make sure you tell them too – they have stolen more than $1700 off me now.
September 21, 2004 at 11:34 pm #655281AnonymousInactiveunfortunately quite a few operations walk this way
Do the math $1000.00 * 1000 affiliates scammed or skimmed per
year is easy to attain … and makes it tempting for others to do
the same … to make matters more interesting for them, try
collecting on this type of business by any type of lawsuit, alone or
by class action, from foreign or domestic countries … the internet
is a free firewall.
:rolleyes:
September 24, 2004 at 1:19 pm #655390AnonymousGuestI agree Aleph but I’m really surprised there are so many short-sighted programs out there.
Yes they got away with that; but I wonder how it compares over say a 3 year period?
where they don’t pay, you’ve got to figure after the first year they’ve pretty well burned their bridges with most of the higher producing affiliates which means the next two years are not going to see anywhere near what they made in the first year,
how much might they have stood to make say over a 3 yr period had they paid their affiliates and not shaved in any form?
I can’t believe the math would justify the shaving when you look at the big picture.
but then again I doubt most look at the big picture. Between the fact of greed, that some of these places are run basically by kids: I’d have to guess the big picture never enters anybody’s mind in many cases.
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